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10-14-2009, 09:59 PM
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Thank you cavecreek. Hopefully, the next change will be to dismissal as there was no service, actual or attempted. Any idea how long it will take to change to dismissal or judgment?
And thank you for the links to CameraFraud.
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10-15-2009, 05:26 PM
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Originally Posted by PEM58
Thank you cavecreek. Hopefully, the next change will be to dismissal as there was no service, actual or attempted. Any idea how long it will take to change to dismissal or judgment?
And thank you for the links to CameraFraud.
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Not sure how long. Scottsdale is nefariously deceitful in these matters given what I've read. |
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10-15-2009, 06:16 PM
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I got a radar spedding ticket and it clearly says points will not be assessed to your driving record. I have no problem with paying the fine as long as not record appears on my license. I have read a lot of different answers but does anyone no for sure before I ignore this. Thanks
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10-18-2009, 12:07 AM
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Originally Posted by jake1833
I got a radar spedding ticket and it clearly says points will not be assessed to your driving record. I have no problem with paying the fine as long as not record appears on my license. I have read a lot of different answers but does anyone no for sure before I ignore this. Thanks
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Points will not be assessed to your license, I have ignored many with no points. |
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11-12-2009, 01:27 PM
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Red light running/photo radar
I am an Arizona State certified Traffic Survival School Instructor. What I can tell you is be VERY cautious about these people posting info about "how to get away with your citations". They will ask you to send money regarding a "plan" to "evade" being served. The attorney general is already looking into shutting down these types of "barely legal" operations. DO NOT GET SUCKERED IN!!!! In July, photo radar speed tickets are no longer assessed points. However, anytime a guilty plea is entered - it does show on your license record. There is just a NO POINT assessment. Bottom line is this - its not "if I can get away with it" IT IS..... "am I willing to pay the price once I get caught". Evading your mistakes should never be an option. Do the right thing - accept your mistakes and then do the necessary actions to correct the problem so it doesn't occur again. Best wishes and drive safely!
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11-12-2009, 01:43 PM
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Originally Posted by TSS Mike
I am an Arizona State certified Traffic Survival School Instructor. What I can tell you is be VERY cautious about these people posting info about "how to get away with your citations". They will ask you to send money regarding a "plan" to "evade" being served. The attorney general is already looking into shutting down these types of "barely legal" operations. DO NOT GET SUCKERED IN!!!! In July, photo radar speed tickets are no longer assessed points. However, anytime a guilty plea is entered - it does show on your license record. There is just a NO POINT assessment. Bottom line is this - its not "if I can get away with it" IT IS..... "am I willing to pay the price once I get caught". Evading your mistakes should never be an option. Do the right thing - accept your mistakes and then do the necessary actions to correct the problem so it doesn't occur again. Best wishes and drive safely!
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Please do not spread misinformation, many of us have ignored these tickets for years without any consequences or points assessed.
Most people who recieve these tickets are not criminal by any means, they are everday people who simply got caught not paying attention to their speed while driving.
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11-12-2009, 06:31 PM
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Any ticket not served by a officer of the court is not a legal ticket. Last time I checked, the post office is not part of the court system.
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11-13-2009, 08:02 AM
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I understand your point TSS Mike.
But the real issue is that ALL parties involved should be in compliance with Arizona law.
Arizona law REQUIRES personal service for any civil offense.
A police officer handing you a ticket because he/she observed a violation is legal service.
A camera taking your picture and a for profit company mailing you an invoice is NOT legal service.
Until you are served, there is no lawful complaint against you.
Photo-radar is NOT about safety. It is about fund raising.
Even Arizona's Attorney general is on record as having questioned the constitutionality of photo radar "tickets".
So...why would you enter any plea (guilty or not) when you have not been charged?
I'm not saying this is the same thing...but consider this: There is a break-in at a bank. The security camera happens to get a picture of you walking down the sidewalk next to the bank. The bank sends you the picture and says you are "charged" with the break-in. Would you plead guilty? No? I didn't think you would.
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11-20-2009, 10:21 AM
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DIMISSED W/O Prejudice
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Originally Posted by cavecreeker
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Photo Scamera Citation (exceeding posted limit) dismissed 11/14/09 without prejudice = ~120 calendar days
-Snottsdale filed complaint 7/16/09.
-Interestingly, there were no known attempts of service. Live near foothills in North Valley so perhaps they factor in a diminshing return to serve outlying areas
Now I can open the windows and front door for fresh air knowing the stench of Snottsdale will not blow through........
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11-20-2009, 02:19 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by TSS Mike
I am an Arizona State certified Traffic Survival School Instructor. What I can tell you is be VERY cautious about these people posting info about "how to get away with your citations". They will ask you to send money regarding a "plan" to "evade" being served. The attorney general is already looking into shutting down these types of "barely legal" operations. DO NOT GET SUCKERED IN!!!! In July, photo radar speed tickets are no longer assessed points. However, anytime a guilty plea is entered - it does show on your license record. There is just a NO POINT assessment. Bottom line is this - its not "if I can get away with it" IT IS..... "am I willing to pay the price once I get caught". Evading your mistakes should never be an option. Do the right thing - accept your mistakes and then do the necessary actions to correct the problem so it doesn't occur again. Best wishes and drive safely!
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I love it - Talk about 'barely legal' operation. That's precisely what this photo radar scamera is.
However, probably right about the send money part. I never did because of this and other forums for similarly outraged citizens.
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