City Photo Radar Information LLC (Phoenix: rental, car registration, insurance)

[Limited599]

I've read the countless topics on photo radar in Arizona and everyones opinion and personal thoughts and theories on how to get out of the ticket - guilty or not. I know people have ignored these citations and got off scott free - but I'm not one to assume what works for one person works for the next.

I received a letter in the mail from a company called CITY PHOTO RADAR INFORMATION LLC that is based out of Phoenix. This company charges $58 to send you some information on how they guarentee you will get out of your ticket without going to court, paying a fine, going to traffic school, getting any points, etc.

I talked to the owner of the company today who reassured me that this information was compiled by two attorneys and it outlines a loophole found in Arizona law.

Has anyone received this information? Is it worth the $58?

[SummaTime]

I've seen those mailings, but I've never gone through with it. I debated about going through with it or not, and decided against it. I really don't know how they could do that though....but I don't know. Maybe it's real.

And just an fyi to anyone, a friend of mine went to traffic school and found this information out. When you get caught by a photo radar, the ticket that you get in the mail is just a "Notice of citation" - it is NOT an actual citation. That's probably why some people just ignore it and get off scott free. However, then you take the chance of a person coming to your door to give you the actual citation. If you ignore this person, then you're ticket will eventually get dropped (I believe after 3 months?? but I'm not sure..). But, you just have to be careful EVERY SINGLE TIME someone comes to your door - because they can technically just throw the ticket inside your door once you open it a crack. If that happens, then you must pay the ticket/go to court, or else your license WILL be suspended.

Limted599 - I know thats not the information you were looking for. Sorry I couldn't help. I would check sites like RipoffReport.com, and see if the company is legit. Or else, just research it

[Valley Native]

Citizens are being denied the option of voting on photo radar ... so we're allowing the buffoons in the Legislature, and our dictator Governor to force it on us because the state is in a budget deficit. So that's the way it goes. To hell with our free spirited Libertarian principles that Arizonans have always held sacred. We are now forced to drive like old pokey geezers if we want to avoid being flashed and ticketed by the new robotic police force.

Once again, folks: it's not about slowing people down for safety reasons. Slow driving and safety have nothing to do with each other. It's about filling the state's coffers with more money for our wonderful leaders to waste even further! Radar cameras will only cite people for driving reasonably & prudently fast. They WILL NOT and CANNOT deter the real speed demons who drive 100 MPH or more ... nor can they do anything about the tailgaters, the intoxicated, the inattentive, and the annoyingly slow idiots.

[Rick Lee]

Just invest in a good radar detector. They pay for themselves. Mine has saved me from those mobile radar vans a few times. The other day I was on my bike and sans radar detector. But another biker coming the other way warned me and the cop around the corner didn't get me. I love nothing more than defeating the tax collectors.

[Limited599]

I would like to keep this thread on topic...this isn't about if photo radar is right or wrong or legal or illegal and I'm aware they are a revenue generator for the state. In my specific case, a radar detector wouldn't have helped me anyway.

The question is, has anyone received the information from City Photo Radar Information, LLC? For $58 (half the cost of NTSI School and 1/6th the cost of the actual ticket) it might be worth it.

[Bummer]

Originally Posted by Limited599

The question is, has anyone received the information from City Photo Radar Information, LLC? For $58 (half the cost of NTSI School and 1/6th the cost of the actual ticket) it might be worth it.

Have you considered contacting The Office of The Attorney General, Limited?

This sure sounds like a SCAM to me and, in the past, I've had good luck from a simple call about other suspicious offerings.

Good Luck

[Limited599]

Originally Posted by Bummer

Have you considered contacting The Office of The Attorney General, Limited?

This sure sounds like a SCAM to me and, in the past, I've had good luck from a simple call about other suspicious offerings.

Good Luck

No, I havn't considered that. I checked out ripoffreport.com and the AZ BBB and there are no complaints. He provides an address to his office which gives it some credability.

[joninaz]

City Photo Radar Information sells the "Super PROTECTOR" License plate cover and also the "Photo Stopper" spray. I'll let others decide on the legality of these.

As for other legit loopholes, from what I understand the photo radar companies toss away all the tickets associated with vehicles that are registered to private companies, rental agencies, govt. vehicles, etc. They aren't going to waste their time trying to serve a complaint when there could be a number of drivers of such a vehicle. Likewise, how would they know who to serve - in person - if the car is registered to an office building or PO Box? By law, they have to serve the actual driver, so they limit their efforts to the group that can most likely be served: oridinary folks who have a residence.

Given this, it seems you can incorporate a business name or form an LLC, then transfer the car registration to that company. Just make sure the company address is not your home! I'm not sure if this is difficult or the costs involved, but given the costs of tickets, insurance, driving school, etc., it might be worth it for the ticket prone.

[w1ngzer0]

Originally Posted by Valley Native

Citizens are being denied the option of voting on photo radar ... so we're allowing the buffoons in the Legislature, and our dictator Governor to force it on us because the state is in a budget deficit. So that's the way it goes. To hell with our free spirited Libertarian principles that Arizonans have always held sacred. We are now forced to drive like old pokey geezers if we want to avoid being flashed and ticketed by the new robotic police force.

Once again, folks: it's not about slowing people down for safety reasons. Slow driving and safety have nothing to do with each other. It's about filling the state's coffers with more money for our wonderful leaders to waste even further! Radar cameras will only cite people for driving reasonably & prudently fast. They WILL NOT and CANNOT deter the real speed demons who drive 100 MPH or more ... nor can they do anything about the tailgaters, the intoxicated, the inattentive, and the annoyingly slow idiots.

As long as baby boomers are stuck in Arizona and controlling it, my generation has no hope for any positive changes in Arizona government.

[NDBoost]

I received TWO letters in the mail, both from different companies..

one is from the same company the OP mentioned City Photo Rader Information LLC and the other is from 123noticket.com. I too would like to know about whether this info is worthy or not.. If i don't hear anything by next friday ill probably take the plunge and spend the $58 just to see what its all about. If it is indeed a scam, ill file to get my money back or ill open a claim with my credit card company on it, AND get the word out that its scam..