U.S. Cities  

Go Back   City-Data Forum > U.S. Forums > Arizona > Phoenix area
Register Blogs Search Today's Posts Mark Forums Read

Welcome to City-Data.com forum! Make sure to register - it's free and very quick! You have to register before you can post and participate in our discussions with 700,000 other registered members. User profiles and some forums can only be seen by registered members. After you create your free account you will be able to customize many options, you will have the full access to over 15,000 posts/day about local topics and you will see fewer ads.

Get a detailed profile
Search Forums  (Advanced)
Business Search - 14 Million verified businesses
Search for:  near: 
Reply


 
Old 10-24-2008, 02:06 PM
Junior Member
 
Join Date: Oct 2008
1 posts, read 448 times
Reputation: 12
stardust76 is on a distinguished road
Default Arizona voters beware!

Proposition 20
The Simple Truth
Told to me by my credit union

On November 4th you will be faced with many tough decisions. None tougher than Arizona's many ballot initiatives.
In an effort to provide you with the simple truth about Proposition 200: The Payday Loan Reform Act. Simply said, Proposition 200 is NOT reform! It is a ballot initiative written by payday lenders for the sole purpose of making minor regulatory adjustments to the payday lending industry, benefiting the payday lenders, not the consumers.
The Arizona ballot initiative process ties the hands of our elected lawmakers. Please be educated and informed about the initiatives that you are voting for or against. Advertisements you see on TV do not always tell the whole truth. Proposition 200 is entirely funded by the payday lending industry and has spent more than $11 million dollars to manipulate their message.
Proposition 200 is NOT reform, it IS deception!
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message

 
Old 10-24-2008, 02:15 PM
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Aug 2006
841 posts, read 801,303 times
Reputation: 253
AzDreamer is a jewel in the roughAzDreamer is a jewel in the roughAzDreamer is a jewel in the roughAzDreamer is a jewel in the roughAzDreamer is a jewel in the roughAzDreamer is a jewel in the rough
Of course, credit unions are totally unbiased concerning other businesses that compete with them.

If someone wants to do business with a payday lender what business is it of ours?
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 10-24-2008, 02:21 PM
Respected Contributor
 
Join Date: Sep 2006
Location: Arizona
4,375 posts, read 3,850,719 times
Reputation: 1168
Ponderosa has much to be proud ofPonderosa has much to be proud ofPonderosa has much to be proud ofPonderosa has much to be proud ofPonderosa has much to be proud ofPonderosa has much to be proud ofPonderosa has much to be proud ofPonderosa has much to be proud ofPonderosa has much to be proud ofPonderosa has much to be proud ofPonderosa has much to be proud ofPonderosa has much to be proud ofPonderosa has much to be proud ofPonderosa has much to be proud ofPonderosa has much to be proud ofPonderosa has much to be proud ofPonderosa has much to be proud ofPonderosa has much to be proud of
Quote:
Originally Posted by AzDreamer View Post
Of course, credit unions are totally unbiased concerning other businesses that compete with them.

If someone wants to do business with a payday lender what business is it of ours?
I agree. Payday loans are an important part of "making ends meet" for thousands of Arizonans. They work just fine and don't need the CUs and do-gooders or the nit-wits in the state legislature to tell them how to deal with this unfortunate segment of the population. YES on 200.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 10-24-2008, 02:26 PM
Helping others help themselves...
 
Join Date: Jun 2007
Location: Arizona
10,146 posts, read 3,231,521 times
Reputation: 6378
nitram has a reputation beyond reputenitram has a reputation beyond reputenitram has a reputation beyond repute
nitram has a reputation beyond reputenitram has a reputation beyond reputenitram has a reputation beyond reputenitram has a reputation beyond reputenitram has a reputation beyond reputenitram has a reputation beyond reputenitram has a reputation beyond reputenitram has a reputation beyond reputenitram has a reputation beyond reputenitram has a reputation beyond reputenitram has a reputation beyond reputenitram has a reputation beyond reputenitram has a reputation beyond reputenitram has a reputation beyond reputenitram has a reputation beyond reputenitram has a reputation beyond repute
It is my understanding that if the measure passes on a yes vote, that is supported by the payday loan companies, they can continue to charge their 396% annual interest rates forever by law. If it is defeated by a no vote the legislature regulates them to a lower % of interest.
They still will be in business no matter what happens.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 10-24-2008, 02:34 PM
Senior Member
 
Join Date: May 2008
Location: Phoenix, AZ
1,657 posts, read 613,679 times
Reputation: 587
cap1717 is a name known to allcap1717 is a name known to allcap1717 is a name known to allcap1717 is a name known to allcap1717 is a name known to allcap1717 is a name known to allcap1717 is a name known to allcap1717 is a name known to allcap1717 is a name known to allcap1717 is a name known to allcap1717 is a name known to all
Quote:
Originally Posted by stardust76 View Post
Proposition 20
The Simple Truth
Told to me by my credit union

On November 4th you will be faced with many tough decisions. None tougher than Arizona's many ballot initiatives.
In an effort to provide you with the simple truth about Proposition 200: The Payday Loan Reform Act. Simply said, Proposition 200 is NOT reform! It is a ballot initiative written by payday lenders for the sole purpose of making minor regulatory adjustments to the payday lending industry, benefiting the payday lenders, not the consumers.
The Arizona ballot initiative process ties the hands of our elected lawmakers. Please be educated and informed about the initiatives that you are voting for or against. Advertisements you see on TV do not always tell the whole truth. Proposition 200 is entirely funded by the payday lending industry and has spent more than $11 million dollars to manipulate their message.
Proposition 200 is NOT reform, it IS deception!
Yes, this is the absolute truth! Prop 200 is being "supported" by the pay day loan industry itself, and should be "voted down". I would support a short term loan industry with a much more reasonable interst rate. . . even as much at 10 %, perhaps, but NOT the 30 something percent that the payday loan industry wants! This is akin to "highway robbery" of the least financially able citizens!
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 10-24-2008, 04:18 PM
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Apr 2007
Location: Arizona
544 posts, read 369,344 times
Reputation: 249
azjack has a spectacular aura aboutazjack has a spectacular aura aboutazjack has a spectacular aura aboutazjack has a spectacular aura aboutazjack has a spectacular aura about
Yep, the Payday Loan industry paid for this Prop and its ads. The laws permitting this questionable industry to operate expire in 2010. Prop 200 simply extends their right to do business. Advertisements stating that it tames/reforms the industry are basically outright lies. I voted No on 200.

And Prop 202 proponents (funded by Carl's Jr franchisee, Southern AZ Home Builders, and similar interests) are pushing the lie that it will lessen the hiring of illegals. It will actually weaken Arizona's strong laws against hiring illegals that took effect on January 1st, 2008. Prop 202, among other things, removes the requirement of running all new hires through the E-Verify system. I voted No on 202.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 10-24-2008, 04:26 PM
Senior Member
 
Join Date: May 2008
Location: Phoenix, AZ
1,657 posts, read 613,679 times
Reputation: 587
cap1717 is a name known to allcap1717 is a name known to allcap1717 is a name known to allcap1717 is a name known to allcap1717 is a name known to allcap1717 is a name known to allcap1717 is a name known to allcap1717 is a name known to allcap1717 is a name known to allcap1717 is a name known to allcap1717 is a name known to all
Just play it "safe" and vote NO on all of the propositions. Every one of them is designed to "mislead" the public!
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 10-24-2008, 05:42 PM
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Aug 2006
841 posts, read 801,303 times
Reputation: 253
AzDreamer is a jewel in the roughAzDreamer is a jewel in the roughAzDreamer is a jewel in the roughAzDreamer is a jewel in the roughAzDreamer is a jewel in the roughAzDreamer is a jewel in the rough
All the do-gooders that think payday loan companies charge too much and make obscene profits can open a competing business that provides paying customers a better choice.

Until you have walked in someone's shoes you might want to respect your lack of insight.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 10-24-2008, 06:01 PM
Photographing Arizona
 
Join Date: Aug 2007
Location: Kingman, AZ
2,887 posts, read 1,995,773 times
Reputation: 1998
kdog has a brilliant future
kdog has a brilliant futurekdog has a brilliant futurekdog has a brilliant futurekdog has a brilliant future
Quote:
Originally Posted by AzDreamer View Post
Until you have walked in someone's shoes you might want to respect your lack of insight.
Whose shoes are you talking about? The shoes of the person who needs the loan, or the loan company?

These payday-loan companies exist for the sole purpose to make as much money as possible from people who can afford it the least. It's really a despicable business.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 10-24-2008, 06:12 PM
Senior Member
 
Join Date: May 2008
Location: Phoenix, AZ
1,657 posts, read 613,679 times
Reputation: 587
cap1717 is a name known to allcap1717 is a name known to allcap1717 is a name known to allcap1717 is a name known to allcap1717 is a name known to allcap1717 is a name known to allcap1717 is a name known to allcap1717 is a name known to allcap1717 is a name known to allcap1717 is a name known to allcap1717 is a name known to all
Quote:
Originally Posted by AzDreamer View Post
All the do-gooders that think payday loan companies charge too much and make obscene profits can open a competing business that provides paying customers a better choice.

Until you have walked in someone's shoes you might want to respect your lack of insight.
I, personally, have made plenty of "loans" to friends, co-workers, etc., in part, at least so that they would not need to resort to "payday" loans. NO INTEREST charged on any of these, and there NEVER WILL BE. NO, I am not in the business of making money from someone else's misfortune!
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Please register to post and access all features of our very popular forum. It is free and quick.

Detailed information about all U.S. cities, counties, and zip codes on our site: City-data.com.



Reply


Quick Reply
Message:

Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search
Display Modes

Similar Threads


Go Back   City-Data Forum > U.S. Forums > Arizona > Phoenix area

All times are GMT -6. The time now is 12:26 PM.

Copyright © 2005-2009, Advameg, Inc.

City-Data.com - Archive 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10, 11, 12, 13 - Top