Open minded liberal areas? (Phoenix, Tucson: sales, real estate, buy)

[nmnita]

Originally Posted by ibarrio

As more Californians move here the political climate will continue to change. Not supporting it, just telling you the way it is.

McCAIN (To carry AZ) ,Sheriff Joe and Andrew Thomas won closer then they would like elections...

In four years the state may very well go blue.

only time will tell. I am not certain it will happen, at least not that fast...I think the more free spirited Calif (I am trying to be politically correct) may leave Ca for Or, Co or Wa..now I am just generalizing here, not saying none will or have come to AZ..I know Lake Havasu has lots of Ca immagrents..

Nita

[cap1717]

There was a interesting map posted on the Phoenix City Data Forum a couple of weeks ago. . . it showed which zip codes in Phoenix polled blue (majority Democratic voters) and which polled Red. The solidly blue areas were pretty much clustered around downtown, mostly the historic neighborhoods, I think. I live far north, and central (near 16th st and Bell road) and was amazed to see my zip code go from red to pink. Nevertheless, only 2 yard signs on my block, both for Obama, and no theft or damage of anyone's political signs in the neighborhood.

[omle]

Originally Posted by markas214

Where are the alternative areas from which this poster is looking:"Want to move to a Conservative town in the surrounding Phoenix area, help!!"?


We are looking for areas where there isn't a lot of proselytizing from religious types and more of a live and let live attitude. We do believe in community and responsibility so a place with considerate, stable and financially secure neighbors with a strong work ethic is also important but not snooty or obsessed with materialism. I am not a church goer, not really a believer for that matter. I would like to live in an area where there is a more open minded and tolerant attitude especially in the schools. Good schools that is. How are Waddell, Wittman, Litchfield Park, Anthem, Vistancia? What about Northeast Mesa, Surprise, Peoria or North Phoenix? We are medical people so we can live virtually anywhere and be convenient to work. We know the areas by visiting but it's impossible to get a sense of how people interact in just a day or two.

At the risk of being hypocritical we do want to live among and have our children go to school with like minded people. People with the same economic circumstances which is solidly middle to upper middle calss.

Good luck.

[omle]

Originally Posted by movin'on

They are NOT apparent, because they are NOT here! I grow weary of people on this board trying to convince outsiders to move here, under some guise of panacea. It's not here! This is NOT a liberal place. All one has to do is to look at the polls of the election to get it! This county went Red! And Mesa, excuse me, is a pit!

My gosh, why aren't you movin'on? Waiting until your are 80?

[cap1717]

Originally Posted by markas214

Where are the alternative areas from which this poster is looking:"Want to move to a Conservative town in the surrounding Phoenix area, help!!"?


We are looking for areas where there isn't a lot of proselytizing from religious types and more of a live and let live attitude. We do believe in community and responsibility so a place with considerate, stable and financially secure neighbors with a strong work ethic is also important but not snooty or obsessed with materialism. I am not a church goer, not really a believer for that matter. I would like to live in an area where there is a more open minded and tolerant attitude especially in the schools. Good schools that is. How are Waddell, Wittman, Litchfield Park, Anthem, Vistancia? What about Northeast Mesa, Surprise, Peoria or North Phoenix? We are medical people so we can live virtually anywhere and be convenient to work. We know the areas by visiting but it's impossible to get a sense of how people interact in just a day or two.

At the risk of being hypocritical we do want to live among and have our children go to school with like minded people. People with the same economic circumstances which is solidly middle to upper middle calss.

In the current "down" market, there are lots of places for sale in the nice historic neighborhoods near downtown. Not sure what the schools are like there, but these are relatively "high income" areas, and you can probably get a real deal right now.

[ArizonaBear]

Originally Posted by nmnita

only time will tell. I am not certain it will happen, at least not that fast...I think the more free spirited Calif (I am trying to be politically correct) may leave Ca for Or, Co or Wa..now I am just generalizing here, not saying none will or have come to AZ..I know Lake Havasu has lots of Ca immagrents..

Nita

Actually: Havasu is rather intolerant of people who are not party animals and/or not into the boat scene.

I lived there ca. 2003 and it left a lot to be desired.

[ArizonaBear]

Originally Posted by cap1717

There was a interesting map posted on the Phoenix City Data Forum a couple of weeks ago. . . it showed which zip codes in Phoenix polled blue (majority Democratic voters) and which polled Red. The solidly blue areas were pretty much clustered around downtown, mostly the historic neighborhoods, I think. I live far north, and central (near 16th st and Bell road) and was amazed to see my zip code go from red to pink. Nevertheless, only 2 yard signs on my block, both for Obama, and no theft or damage of anyone's political signs in the neighborhood.

I believe that.

Central Phx is indeed more 'Liberal'............but, our species of Liberal is a far cry from the stereotypical New England/SF variety. We tend to be a bit more right wing.

[_Charles_]

Try these central Phoenix areas by zip code:
85016
85014
85013
85012

[movin'on]

Originally Posted by omle

My gosh, why aren't you movin'on? Waiting until your are 80?

You wanna buy my house at what it's worth? Did not think so.

[movin'on]

Originally Posted by ArizonaBear

I believe that.

Central Phx is indeed more 'Liberal'............but, our species of Liberal is a far cry from the stereotypical New England/SF variety. We tend to be a bit more right wing.

Oh so true. It does depend on one's definition. I go by a San Francisco definition, which is why this town is in no way left leaning.