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Old 11-20-2008, 12:07 AM
 
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Feels like it...but apparently November 2007 was quite a bit warmer then this year.

The average high in Nov. 2007 was 87 degrees vs. 81 for this year and the average low was 62 vs. 56 for this year.
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Old 11-20-2008, 06:04 AM
 
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Good ole' global warming! Janet Nap. was doing an interview today and talked about our temps being high since 1970 and getting higher. They asked if she believed it was global warming and she said, "well, its 92 degrees outside the studio right now, and its Nov. 19th", ya, I believe in global warming. lol Most of all the record highs have happened in the last 30 years and get more frequent as time goes by. I wonder if it will just be hot in the summer and warm in the winter from now on? Since Phoenix started growing it's been heating up, I'm guessing its partly due to the concrete/partly due to warming.
She said the problem in AZ was that the laws were such that you have to figure other ways to help the environment here because we are sort of locked out of doing anything about it. Sounds familiar, like the health care law we just past preventing anything the feds come up with to help with insurance cost wont work in AZ. Why do we act like a separate country? In a bad way? I wish we could go with the flow sometimes.
Buy a lot of lemonade everybody, stay hydrated. lol
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Old 11-20-2008, 06:19 AM
 
Location: Sonoran Desert
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Good ole' global warming! Janet Nap. was doing an interview today and talked about our temps being high since 1970 and getting higher. They asked if she believed it was global warming and she said, "well, its 92 degrees outside the studio right now, and its Nov. 19th", ya, I believe in global warming. lol Most of all the record highs have happened in the last 30 years and get more frequent as time goes by. I wonder if it will just be hot in the summer and warm in the winter from now on? Since Phoenix started growing it's been heating up, I'm guessing its partly due to the concrete/partly due to warming.
She said the problem in AZ was that the laws were such that you have to figure other ways to help the environment here because we are sort of locked out of doing anything about it. Sounds familiar, like the health care law we just past preventing anything the feds come up with to help with insurance cost wont work in AZ. Why do we act like a separate country? In a bad way? I wish we could go with the flow sometimes.
Buy a lot of lemonade everybody, stay hydrated. lol
I thought that proposition failed. Anyway, while I don't question global warming, I find comments like the governor's do a disservice. Local and short term temp variations are not due to global warming. Our "heat wave" is due to a persistent high pressure pattern over the western US. It will break down eventually and the weather will get colder (next week is the predictioin). Why blaming things like this on global warming is bad is that when it gets cold for a prolonged period people put that up as evidence that there is no globalwarming and dumbass radio announcers use it to fire up their listeners to believe all is well and we can continue our polluting ways without consequence.
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Old 11-20-2008, 10:01 AM
 
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I believe in global warming but it's pretty stupid to blame the currently high temps on global warming.
Two days ago we had a new record high temp. for Nov. 18th...and the old record was set in 1948! Was the record set in 1948 also due to global warming?
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Old 11-20-2008, 04:26 PM
 
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I believe in the heat island effect.
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Old 11-20-2008, 05:31 PM
 
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So do I, which is why I wish we had a lot more vegetation in the central parts of Phoenix as well as green buildings.
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Old 11-20-2008, 06:33 PM
 
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Well out here in Arizona City, there is no over population, and it is just as hot here. There is no island effect here, so that is not it. This is the hottest winter I remember, and it is driving me crazy.
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Old 11-20-2008, 06:46 PM
 
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This is the hottest winter I remember, and it is driving me crazy.
Again...it's not. Last year was much hotter. It's all in your head.
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Old 11-20-2008, 07:10 PM
 
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All those store and restaurant misters outside are probably contributing to the climate changes. Think of all of the plants that are here, which are not native, like those crappy palm trees.
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Old 11-20-2008, 07:24 PM
 
Location: Sonoran Desert
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The heat spell looks to be coming to an end. The forecast is for rain in the deserts and snow in the mountains Thanksgiving. That would be unusual (snow). We have been going to our place in the mountains for Thanksgiving weekend for quite a few years and I don't remember there ever being snow or getting snow that early (7000 feet). Only in AZ do people delight in having a cold, cloudy or even rainy Turkey Day. Time to stoke up the fireplace!
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