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Old 01-02-2009, 05:56 PM
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Default Photo radar banned in Pinal county!

Paul Babeu in his first day in office has banished Redflex from his county as per his campaign promise. He ran on the anti-photo radar campaign and for once a politician has kept his campaign promise! Read on his position on photo radar. Sounds like Pinal county picked the right guy. Way to go Pinal county. You listening and watching Jan Brewer? You now have an easy pathway to a second term if you so desire.


“Yes. We actually met with Redflex, and through some of our discussions they knew very clearly that we were going to end photo radar in Pinal County.
I am against it, not only because I’m a strict Constitutionalist, but I believe… it’s driven to create money for the government. It’s corrupting law enforcement for us to be partnered with a private entity that creates revenue—clearly that’s their interest.”
Babeu continued, “I’ve never… seen a photo radar camera arrest a drunk driver or arrest a person with a warrant, see if someone has insurance, or to just simply give directions to somebody…
So I’m against it, we have ended photo radar for speeding. Photo radar’s last days are now behind us, because they ended on the 1st of January.”
CF: How do you feel about the Department of Public Safety putting their roving… speed vans in Pinal County? Do you have any plans on trying to restrict them…?
“They are allowed to do that, that is their purview, but I am going to continue to speak out publicly. I’m hopeful that our new governor Jan Brewer will see this issue as it is…
I’ve seen in the last two, three weeks, not only because of [CameraFRAUD’s] efforts but so many citizens that have been speaking out. They’ve had enough.
We’re in a tough economy and at the same time the government is trying to create more revenue— people are trying to pay their bills and go to work so yes, this is an additional tax on hard working men and women.
So I’m hopeful that Jan Brewer ends photo radar statewide


YouTube - Interview with Sheriff Paul Babeu
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Old 01-02-2009, 08:21 PM
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I'm confused. The speed cameras on I-10 have the ability to cite more drivers who are committing speed violations than one patrol car can. There are too many times when people are speeding by a patrol car that doesn't go after them. There should be a joint effort between highway patrol AND the speed cameras to keep our freeways safe. If people are too broke to pay speeding tickets, maybe they shouldn't speed?
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Old 01-02-2009, 09:26 PM
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Paul Babeu in his first day in office has banished Redflex from his county as per his campaign promise. He ran on the anti-photo radar campaign and for once a politician has kept his campaign promise! Read on his position on photo radar. Sounds like Pinal county picked the right guy. Way to go Pinal county. You listening and watching Jan Brewer? You now have an easy pathway to a second term if you so desire.
Yes! The voters in Pinal County obviously didn't want photo radar ... so since they didn't get a chance to vote on an actual initiative in the past election, they did the next best thing: they elected a Sheriff who is highly opposed to a robotic police force. Mega kudos to Sheriff Babeu! He sounds like one of the few politicians who doesn't behave like a politician.
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Old 01-03-2009, 12:16 AM
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Photo radar will still be active on the State Freeway in that area according to the DPS.
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Photo radar will still be active on the State Freeway in that area according to the DPS.
Sheriff Baboon doesn't have the authority to ban anything. He was just grandstanding for votes - like a politician.
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Old 01-03-2009, 12:47 PM
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Sheriff Baboon doesn't have the authority to ban anything. He was just grandstanding for votes - like a politician.
Well, Governor Jackass Napolitano overstepped her bounds and pushed through photo radar enforcement without any approval from the voting populace. Anybody who has lived in Arizona long enough should know that one of the things we take pride in is allowing the citizens of the state to approve or reject practically everything that calls for change in public policy. That's why we often have a high quantity of initiatives on the ballot during election years. But we were denied the opportunity to vote on photo radar. Napolitano was in a hurry to pay down the deficit which she & the Legislature couldn't come to terms on ... so she authorized this speed camera nonsense as a revenue generator. As you stated, just like a politician!
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Old 01-03-2009, 12:51 PM
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Sheriff Baboon doesn't have the authority to ban anything. He was just grandstanding for votes - like a politician.
Not exactly true. He can, and has, canceled the order for further camera vans. And, he has "banned" the use of existing county owned camera vans from being used, on county roads, for such purposes.
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Old 01-03-2009, 12:54 PM
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Well, Governor Jackass Napolitano overstepped her bounds and pushed through photo radar enforcement without any approval from the voting populace. Anybody who has lived in Arizona long enough should know that one of the things we take pride in is allowing the citizens of the state to approve or reject practically everything that calls for change in public policy. That's why we often have a high quantity of initiatives on the ballot during election years. But we were denied the opportunity to vote on photo radar. Napolitano was in a hurry to pay down the deficit which she & the Legislature couldn't come to terms on ... so she authorized this speed camera nonsense as a revenue generator. As you stated, just like a politician!
I have to disagree with you here. The Governor had every right to authorize the use of Photo Radar.

As for your question about voting on public policy changes: Arizona voters have not voted on each and every public policy change. Take the use of radar for speed enforcement (years ago); there was no public vote on that issue.
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Old 01-03-2009, 01:53 PM
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I have to disagree with you here. The Governor had every right to authorize the use of Photo Radar.
The Governor is supposed to implement changes that reflect what a majority of citizens favor. As you have likely noticed, the use of photo radar is widely unpopular. Admittedly, it's difficult at this point to tell if a majority of Arizonans are actually against it ... but the way to decide that is to do the right thing and put it to a public vote.

Napolitano has also pushed through other changes without approval from the majority. The renaming of Squaw Peak was met with a large amount of opposition ... as was her reluctance to enforce the illegal hiring law. Now she wants easier access for state employees to become unionized. Yes, she has the authority to implement changes, but in her case, I think she has abused her authority.

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As for your question about voting on public policy changes: Arizona voters have not voted on each and every public policy change. Take the use of radar for speed enforcement (years ago); there was no public vote on that issue.
I stated that we have voted on practically everything. However, Arizona has historically had a large number of initiatives on the ballots. There are valid reasons for that. Traditionally, this state has strong conservative/Libertarian principles ... and we believe that the CITIZENS (not the government) should have the final say in policy changes or fiscal matters that involve how the state collects revenue. The citizens have been allowed to vote on major issues over the years such as the lottery, the MLK holiday, abortion, medical marijuana, smoking in public places, and transit initiatives (just to name a few). Certainly, photo radar is major enough to warrant voter approval!
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The Governor is supposed to implement changes that reflect what a majority of citizens favor. As you have likely noticed, the use of photo radar is widely unpopular. Admittedly, it's difficult at this point to tell if a majority of Arizonans are actually against it ... but the way to decide that is to do the right thing and put it to a public vote.

Napolitano has also pushed through other changes without approval from the majority. The renaming of Squaw Peak was met with a large amount of opposition ... as was her reluctance to enforce the illegal hiring law. Now she wants easier access for state employees to become unionized. Yes, she has the authority to implement changes, but in her case, I think she has abused her authority.

I stated that we have voted on practically everything. However, Arizona has historically had a large number of initiatives on the ballots. There are valid reasons for that. Traditionally, this state has strong conservative/Libertarian principles ... and we believe that the CITIZENS (not the government) should have the final say in policy changes or fiscal matters that involve how the state collects revenue. The citizens have been allowed to vote on major issues over the years such as the lottery, the MLK holiday, abortion, medical marijuana, smoking in public places, and transit initiatives (just to name a few). Certainly, photo radar is major enough to warrant voter approval!
First, the initiatives you note: Most, not all, are voter generated initiatives - not from government. There are some exceptions of course.

The Governor was well within her rights to do what she did.

Every law, EVERY law passed by the legislature changes public policy in some way - and has an impact of fiscal matters. WE DO NOT vote on each and every one of these.

As for the public and photo radar: Polls show wide support.
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