WHY I HATE PHOENIX! Or is it Feeniks? (Glendale, Scottsdale: real estate, housing)

[azkylady2]

Originally Posted by aj661

If you have 3/4 inch or smaller landscaping rock in your front yard, you can do the "snow" angel thing there... That'll toughen you up, live2hover!

DUH I am having a highlighted hair half blond moment whats dat mean??

[GirlinAZ]

Originally Posted by Matrissa

I am looking to come to Goodyear AZ on a 13 week RN assignment. What is it like there? Will I like it? Crime rate? Any comments or suggestions are welcome.
Also, is there a nice, clean, gated, safe RV park in the vicininty? Thank you!

I would not recommend this area AT ALL. Not a very nice area and far from everything. It is newer however, so maybe it isn't as bad as I remember. It is uh, somewhere to visit for your 13 weeks, and then find where you want to be.
I would live somewhere near a freeway to commute to it-and I do not ever recommend commuting. Think about Peoria or Ahwahtukee. Both are far, but in my opinion, the only nicer areas anywhere near Goodyear.

[Artliquide]

Originally Posted by NanawaleJulie

I would not recommend this area AT ALL. Not a very nice area and far from everything. It is newer however, so maybe it isn't as bad as I remember. It is uh, somewhere to visit for your 13 weeks, and then find where you want to be.
I would live somewhere near a freeway to commute to it-and I do not ever recommend commuting. Think about Peoria or Ahwahtukee. Both are far, but in my opinion, the only nicer areas anywhere near Goodyear.

A newer community??? Goodyear, the company, bought the land in 1917! Then, the town became incorporated in 1946. For Arizona, that's not a newer community.

And, Peoria and Ahwatukee are on opposite ends of the valley, Peoria being a lot closer to Goodyear than Ahwatukee. And Goodyear is right next to I-10 and the 101. Few towns are as close to multiple freeways in AZ as Goodyear is.

Where are you getting your information?? Maybe you confused Goodyear with Buckeye like I did (not that Buckeye is a bad place to live either)

If someone really wanted to live in another town and commute to Goodyear, how about Avondale, Tolleson, Litchfield? Those are all right next to Goodyear, and definitely a much shorter commute than Ahwatukee would be.

[sablebaby]

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Agree. Goodyear is a very nice place, with some nice homes. Ahwatukee is a joke to commute to Goodyear, are you kidding me? I hate telling people to move there when they only need to commute to downtown phx. Traffic is hell. Peoria is an ok choice since it's on the same side of town, but if I worked in Goodyear I'd live there too in a heartbeat!

[From KW]

I already 'hate' it and I haven't even moved here yet.

So many various types of lanscapes within hours: Desert, mountain, valley, canyon - anywhere else you'd have to drive days in order to encouter that much variety.

I hate the fact that houses are reasonable priced and there are 552 job postings in my field at the moment:

Phoenix Database Jobs on CareerBuilder.com

[Artliquide]

Originally Posted by From KW

I hate the fact that houses are reasonable priced and there are 552 job postings in my field at the moment:

Phoenix Database Jobs on CareerBuilder.com

Yeah, tech fields are the way to go in Phoenix. I'll never make programmer or engineer money, but there are tons of those kinds of jobs out here.

[ryneone]

Originally Posted by brittZ

Wow!! counsElor J, what an elloquent post. You are more than welcome to not ever come to Arizona . . . ever.

As for me, I just hate AZ. I hate all that sunshine. I hate not having to lock my doors for fear of not being victimized. I hate the low property taxes (compared to CA). I hate the massive movie theaters. I hate the spirit of individuality in AZ. I hate the $.50 per gallon lower gas prices. I hate the fact that AZ schools want to make sure students can speak English. I hate the most beautiful sunsets in the world. I hate the smell of the Valley afte a downpour. I hate the amazing thunderstorms and monsoons. I hate all the camping, fishing, and hiking. Gahhh, what a horrid place this Arizona. Sure it has real problems like everywhere else, but these are the things I really really hate about Arizona.

How nice its a step up from Cali but a step down from so many more places. Phoenix is a nice place if you like hot dry weather. If you like to be bored. It offers golfing, movies, and semi decent shopping. For a metro with 4+ million its a huge sprawling suburb with little to offer. Name one good amuesment park? Waterpark? Nightlife? The monsoons are a joke 70% of the time. I went to school there 5-11 grade and i hate to say they do not make sure the kids speck English. I had many class mates who came to school every year with a different name explain that?

[Artliquide]

Originally Posted by ryneone

How nice its a step up from Cali but a step down from so many more places. Phoenix is a nice place if you like hot dry weather. If you like to be bored. It offers golfing, movies, and semi decent shopping. For a metro with 4+ million its a huge sprawling suburb with little to offer. Name one good amuesment park? Waterpark? Nightlife? The monsoons are a joke 70% of the time. I went to school there 5-11 grade and i hate to say they do not make sure the kids speck English. I had many class mates who came to school every year with a different name explain that?

1. A different name every year? What in the world are you talking about?

2. There is a nightlife. You just have to be in the know. Maybe socialize a bit to get to know people who enjoy a good nightlife. I used to go out every weekend, before I had a baby, and I'm not one to hang out in bars for no reason. There's lots of stuff to do at night. It's just not advertised on the nightly news or in the paper because most of Phoenix is white, middle class, suburban, go to bed at 11 type of people. I could tell you some of the regular events around town but I kind of like that they're not highly publicized.

3. When did you go to high school here? If you follow local news, there was a proposition at the last major election requiring english education in public schools. Arizona has become very strict with teacher requirements, mostly because of the federal mandates in the No Child Left Behind act. For example, all teachers have to be certified in SEI (Structured English Immersion) by next year to comply with the English only legislation. Besides every single public school teacher being certified to teach ESL (English as a second language) students, ESL specialized teaching programs have been quite strong in the last 5 years or so. So, how old is your opinion that schools do not make sure kids speak English? If you're talking about private schools, well, they're not required to follow that law.

4. Since when does having a big amusement park qualify a town as being fun? Some people don't even like amusement parks. Me, I love them, but I'm ok with driving to Cali every once in a while to go to Magic Mountain. We're supposed to be getting a big one soon, but at the same time, I kind of don't want all the congestion that would generate. As far as water parks, what exactly is it you want? We have several big ones. I'm not a huge water park person (the thought of how much chlorine they put in the water to kill all the bacteria from so many people in there makes me gag), but the few times I've been, it's been a blast. Besides, if/when they build a bigger water or amusement park, how much do you want to bet that they'll slap on sales tax to pay for it, like they did with the stadiums.

It seems that you are used to living life with extreme luxury, or at least higher expectations than most people. Is that it?

PS: I don't understand what you mean when you say that monsoons are a joke. When my street's flooded, I don't find it all that funny...but I do love to get poured on, and the amazing lightning shows.

[ArizonaBear]

Originally Posted by Artliquide

1. A different name every year? What in the world are you talking about?

2. There is a nightlife. You just have to be in the know. Maybe socialize a bit to get to know people who enjoy a good nightlife. I used to go out every weekend, before I had a baby, and I'm not one to hang out in bars for no reason. There's lots of stuff to do at night. It's just not advertised on the nightly news or in the paper because most of Phoenix is white, middle class, suburban, go to bed at 11 type of people. I could tell you some of the regular events around town but I kind of like that they're not highly publicized.

3. When did you go to high school here? If you follow local news, there was a proposition at the last major election requiring english education in public schools. Arizona has become very strict with teacher requirements, mostly because of the federal mandates in the No Child Left Behind act. For example, all teachers have to be certified in SEI (Structured English Immersion) by next year to comply with the English only legislation. Besides every single public school teacher being certified to teach ESL (English as a second language) students, ESL specialized teaching programs have been quite strong in the last 5 years or so. So, how old is your opinion that schools do not make sure kids speak English? If you're talking about private schools, well, they're not required to follow that law.

4. Since when does having a big amusement park qualify a town as being fun? Some people don't even like amusement parks. Me, I love them, but I'm ok with driving to Cali every once in a while to go to Magic Mountain. We're supposed to be getting a big one soon, but at the same time, I kind of don't want all the congestion that would generate. As far as water parks, what exactly is it you want? We have several big ones. I'm not a huge water park person (the thought of how much chlorine they put in the water to kill all the bacteria from so many people in there makes me gag), but the few times I've been, it's been a blast. Besides, if/when they build a bigger water or amusement park, how much do you want to bet that they'll slap on sales tax to pay for it, like they did with the stadiums.

It seems that you are used to living life with extreme luxury, or at least higher expectations than most people. Is that it?

PS: I don't understand what you mean when you say that monsoons are a joke. When my street's flooded, I don't find it all that funny...but I do love to get poured on, and the amazing lightning shows.

Well stated

[GirlinAZ]

Originally Posted by Artliquide

A newer community??? Goodyear, the company, bought the land in 1917! Then, the town became incorporated in 1946. For Arizona, that's not a newer community.

And, Peoria and Ahwatukee are on opposite ends of the valley, Peoria being a lot closer to Goodyear than Ahwatukee. And Goodyear is right next to I-10 and the 101. Few towns are as close to multiple freeways in AZ as Goodyear is.

Where are you getting your information?? Maybe you confused Goodyear with Buckeye like I did (not that Buckeye is a bad place to live either)

If someone really wanted to live in another town and commute to Goodyear, how about Avondale, Tolleson, Litchfield? Those are all right next to Goodyear, and definitely a much shorter commute than Ahwatukee would be.

Just because an area is "incorporated" doesn't mean it is as populated as it is currently-that is my point. It has been built up like everywhere else. Jeez-does everyone have to jump on every little detail?