WHY I HATE PHOENIX! Or is it Feeniks? (house, crime)

[joninaz]

It seems the complainers on the PHX board are the type who expect a city to entertain them. Nothing to do? I barely have time to do half of what I'd like to do - but maybe it's because I design my life rather than await for things to happen. If you have any hobbies, interests or passions, you'll find like minded people here. If not, create your own movement. But to sit back and whine that it's not like some other place at some other time is more a reflection of laziness than anything. If you care to refute this, then share with as an activity you can't seem to find an outlet to explore.

[movin'on]

Originally Posted by Synergy38

movin'on.. my friend.. you need to understand the difference between being constructive about Phoenix and posting your opinion as to why Phoenix doesn't fit your lifestyle..

Nothing to do? Wrong.. there's nothing to do that you like. That's a big difference.

The way you're taking about people in Phoenix acting above everyone else, you're doing the same thing pal, except you're acting above everyone else who enjoys what Phoenix has to offer.

Time to either move on, or get off your own personal high horse.

You seem like a nice person, who also resides in Canada, right? So I live here and might be in a better position to comment on what really goes on here. Do you agree?

I've already said that, FOR ME, there is little of interest to do here.

The one thing I've noticed about these Phoenix threads (and I've been here for two years in this forum) is that the negatives are really not what people want to hear, hence my suggestion this thread be renamed.

With all due respect, you don't live here, so you may not be in the best position to comment with respect to what there is or there is not to do.

I don't mean to be contentious, but it's a trend I see in these threads. Praise the virtues of Phoenix or be quiet. Now I shouldn't be quite surprised but what someone finds a reason to ban me from this board for expressing my opinions in a thread, which doesn't even have the right name, to start with.

[movin'on]

Originally Posted by joninaz

It seems the complainers on the PHX board are the type who expect a city to entertain them. Nothing to do? I barely have time to do half of what I'd like to do - but maybe it's because I design my life rather than await for things to happen. If you have any hobbies, interests or passions, you'll find like minded people here. If not, create your own movement. But to sit back and whine that it's not like some other place at some other time is more a reflection of laziness than anything. If you care to refute this, then share with as an activity you can't seem to find an outlet to explore.

Here is where I am getting tripped up. I thought this was/is an I hate Phoenix thread. I guess I'm wrong.

Oh, why bother to even respond further. There are places that a person just does not fundamentally like. This thread is a call to express these thoughts. As is turns out, these thoughts are not welcome.

[Synergy38]

Originally Posted by movin'on

You seem like a nice person, who also resides in Canada, right? So I live here and might be in a better position to comment on what really goes on here. Do you agree?

No, I do not agree with that at all... You think i've never been to Phoenix, or that i've never left my Igloo (Kidding) or what? I've seen ALOT of the world and just understand what I enjoy to do with my time, if Phoenix didn't suit me, I wouldn't be planning my life to move there this July.

I've seen alot of CONSTRUCTIVE negativity about Phoenix on this board, TONS! What you're doing is a whole different thing.. You're whining more or less that Phoenix doesn't suit YOU all the while bashing because it doesn't meet your personal expectations...

You want to talk about people in Phoenix acting above other people? Maybe it's rubbing of on you, because I don't need to currently reside in Phoenix to know enough about the place to build a valid opinion.

Good luck in whatever you do, but I'm not letting you off the hook there.

[londonbarcelona]

Originally Posted by movin'on

Pardon me for asking, but why on earth does anyone in this state have a reason to be "above everyone else?"

When I express my intense dislike for this place, it's my dislike. Maybe some people like packed freeways, blazing heat, and nothing to do, but that doesn't translate into my being above everyone else.

It just means some people have not experienced the kinds of places to compare this place with. It is all relative, and where I came from outshines this place, so of course I am not going to be satisfied here.

Ah...............I was agreeing with you..........................?

[movin'on]

Originally Posted by londonbarcelona

Ah...............I was agreeing with you..........................?

Thanks! Good to know

[londonbarcelona]

First of all, She's right. This is the I Hate Phoenix thread and therefore should be allowed to express her opinion.

Look, there are things I love about this place and things I dislike. I think many of us have things we dislike or love about many places!

It is unfair to jump on someone who is expressing their opinion in the correct thread.

I'm sorry if you're feelings have been hurt, you have done nothing wrong. You have replied on the correct thread and are allowed to express your feelings.

[movin'on]

Originally Posted by Synergy38

No, I do not agree with that at all... You think i've never been to Phoenix, or that i've never left my Igloo (Kidding) or what? I've seen ALOT of the world and just understand what I enjoy to do with my time, if Phoenix didn't suit me, I wouldn't be planning my life to move there this July.

Yes, but point is you do not live here. Why not give yourself some time to settle in, before you get to a firm opinion? I have to tell you, it took me TWO times to realize how unhappy I would be here. Yes, TWO times. I moved here in 96-97 and left. Then I moved from the Bay Area in 2003, thinking things would be different. My point is you have to really live here before you make an informed opinion. Granted, I was an idiot to somehow think it would be different a second time around, but my financial situation was different (as in more affluent), so I thought that would fix things. BTW, I am from Minnesota, I know all about igloos.

I've seen alot of CONSTRUCTIVE negativity about Phoenix on this board, TONS! What you're doing is a whole different thing.. You're whining more or less that Phoenix doesn't suit YOU all the while bashing because it doesn't meet your personal expectations...

Well, then please share with me all the constructive criticism. You haven't been in this forum for too long, so it should not be too hard for you to dig up some threads.

You want to talk about people in Phoenix acting above other people? Maybe it's rubbing of on you, because I don't need to currently reside in Phoenix to know enough about the place to build a valid opinion.

Sorry, but you do. One has to live in a place to really experience it. It's not a condescending, rather based in a day to day living it thing.

Good luck in whatever you do, but I'm not letting you off the hook there.

And what hook is there exactly? LOL I fail to see the hook.

[Synergy38]

How bad is Arizona public education? comparing to other States?
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Moving to Phoenix - No Car
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*Dust in the Wind*
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Do you want more? I see plenty of educational and constructive topics and posts.. even in this thread. What you're doing is whining.

I still fail to see your argument based on actually living there.. I've been there enough to understand the people, the traffic, the crime, the HEAT, the Sprawl, and so on. Keep riding that high horse you're on.

Phoenix is 100% for you, or it's 100% not for you from my experience... no in between. If you can't deal with the lack of greenspace, the population, the climate, and general things to do.. why are you there in the first place? It's pretty cut and dry as to what Phoenix has to offer somebody.

In respect of the Moderators here, I'll let you go.. Good luck in your quest for ultimate serenity!

[movin'on]

Originally Posted by londonbarcelona

First of all, She's right. This is the I Hate Phoenix thread and therefore should be allowed to express her opinion.

Look, there are things I love about this place and things I dislike. I think many of us have things we dislike or love about many places!

It is unfair to jump on someone who is expressing their opinion in the correct thread.

I'm sorry if you're feelings have been hurt, you have done nothing wrong. You have replied on the correct thread and are allowed to express your feelings.

Thank you. I feel validated somehow.