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Old 12-15-2009, 09:31 PM
 
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Are you just talking the camera tickets? Or any ticket in general?

Its been a very long time since I had either type of ticket, but the last time maybe 8 yrs ago was handed out by a real police officer. Just an ordinary speeding ticket but it resulted in a suspension of my drivers license pretty quickly. Once the notices changed to threats of a warrant for arrest, I paid the ticket.

(this is ticket that caused that casino story I posted. I mailed in the payment later than the due date but never reinstated since I didnt know I had to do anything besides pay, and its why they cited me for being in possession of a fraudelent ID)
Cmist,

I was a courier for many years, in other word an independent contractor who drove my own car delivering documents all day. These are the photo tickets I am referring to only. I did get real tickets by an officer too, and I paid them as I was truly "served." The photo tickets are not even real, in other words a "scare tactic" by the state. Anyone who pays them are uniformed, unless they are served. The OP was served, but the brat wasn't, in other words she just gave her money away when she did not have to.

 
Old 12-15-2009, 09:37 PM
 
Location: Peoria, AZ
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Cmist,

I was a courier for many years, in other word an independent contractor who drove my own car delivering documents all day. These are the photo tickets I am referring to only. I did get real tickets by an officer too, and I paid them as I was truly "served." The photo tickets are not even real, in other words a "scare tactic" by the state. Anyone who pays them are uniformed, unless they are served. The OP was served, but the brat wasn't, in other words she just gave her money away when she did not have to.
LOL, got it. I did get one photo radar ticket a long time ago from one of those roaming vans parked on the side of the road... Was maybe 10+ years ago. I ripped it up, never paid it, and never heard from anyone again.

I can't believe all the threads about this lately. Seems crazy how much money they put into setting this whole gig up and how willy nilly the whole thing is run.
 
Old 12-15-2009, 11:51 PM
 
Location: Cave Creek, AZ USA
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You can't blow off tickets you get from a cop. But you can fight them in court. And even if you lose in court, the state loses more. I've fought tix in court, lost and appealed it, just to make the podunk township that railroaded me send a cop downtown for half a day to deal with my appeal. I lost, but I could afford it and the half day that cop spent dealing with my case was half a day he wasn't shafting other drivers unlucky enough to pass through his ticket factory of a town. If the state wants my money, they WILL earn it.
 
Old 12-16-2009, 12:36 AM
 
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You can't blow off tickets you get from a cop. But you can fight them in court. And even if you lose in court, the state loses more. I've fought tix in court, lost and appealed it, just to make the podunk township that railroaded me send a cop downtown for half a day to deal with my appeal. I lost, but I could afford it and the half day that cop spent dealing with my case was half a day he wasn't shafting other drivers unlucky enough to pass through his ticket factory of a town. If the state wants my money, they WILL earn it.
Good Job! I really like this attitude. Hopefully I won't wimp out and will do something similar to redflex and government.
 
Old 12-16-2009, 09:10 AM
 
Location: Verde Valley AZ
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Rick Lee was correct. I am an Arizona native who has gotten away with well over 20 of these bogus tickets. I was a delivery driver in Phoenix for years, so I got lots of them. Some here will respect you for paying the "tax collector." However, anyone with any knowledge of the system (Rick Lee, Valley Native, me, etc) knows you just bowed down to the system, just like Arizona wants you to. You only got one, I hope that $190 you donated to the Arizona budget deficit was not really needed by you. Unfortunately you did not know that it takes 15 of these tickets being ignored before the state even tries takes action.
Ummmm...okay, but what does being an AZ native have to do with it? So am I.

Since I've never had a ticket I have no idea how long I could go before they start looking for me and I have no desire to have them putting out any warrants, or anything else.

So, geez, I'm getting slammed for doing what I thought was best for me and just getting it over with. "Bowing down to the system" wasn't my intent. Peace of mind was. Everyone else can do as they please.
 
Old 12-16-2009, 09:19 AM
 
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Ummmm...okay, but what does being an AZ native have to do with it? So am I.

Since I've never had a ticket I have no idea how long I could go before they start looking for me and I have no desire to have them putting out any warrants, or anything else.

So, geez, I'm getting slammed for doing what I thought was best for me and just getting it over with. "Bowing down to the system" wasn't my intent. Peace of mind was. Everyone else can do as they please.
Then you should know that these tickets are bogus. They are also civil, not criminal tickets so they can not issue a warrant out for your arrest. I was not slamming you either. I actually feel bad for you since you paid the ticket and you are unemployed. If you do get another one, just avoid the process server and you get off scot free after 120 days.
 
Old 12-16-2009, 09:25 AM
 
Location: Cave Creek, AZ USA
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Remember this rule - if a cop handed you the ticket, you CANNOT ignore it. If you got it in the mail, you CAN ignore it.

BTW, I got flashed for the first time (I think) on I-17 last Friday night. But I was on my bike and wearing full gear with a tinted visor on my fullface helmet. Even if the cars to my right didn't block me in the photo, they'll never be able to identify me. I usually try to hit 80-90mph around the cameras and just ride between the sensor lines near the shoulder. But as it was dark out and the wires were under the overpass, I couldn't see them well enough to maneuver safely. So I had to go over them. Got a bright red flash, which really would have stung, had I not been wearing a tinted visor.
 
Old 12-16-2009, 09:29 AM
 
Location: South Tempe, AZ
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Remember this rule - if a cop handed you the ticket, you CANNOT ignore it. If you got it in the mail, you CAN ignore it.

BTW, I got flashed for the first time (I think) on I-17 last Friday night. But I was on my bike and wearing full gear with a tinted visor on my fullface helmet. Even if the cars to my right didn't block me in the photo, they'll never be able to identify me. I usually try to hit 80-90mph around the cameras and just ride between the sensor lines near the shoulder. But as it was dark out and the wires were under the overpass, I couldn't see them well enough to maneuver safely. So I had to go over them. Got a bright red flash, which really would have stung, had I not been wearing a tinted visor.
Sorry, I don't get this blatant disregard for speed limits (and the bragging about it). I know you aren't the only one, but you are no more entitled to decide what the legal limit is than any other individual, and it doesn't really matter what a great, safe driver you think you are.

LVD-- you got after DesertBrat for "bowing down to the system" and his or her lack of knowledge, etc. Slamming is in the eye of the beholder (or target) so I won't use that term, but I do think your criticism of the action ADB took was a little over the top.
 
Old 12-16-2009, 09:39 AM
 
Location: Cave Creek, AZ USA
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but you are no more entitled to decide what the legal limit is than any other individual, and it doesn't really matter what a great, safe driver you think you are.
I feel the same way about the state setting capricious speed (and camera) limits while only considering the lowest common denominator of idiot drivers and how much money the state thinks they can get out of how many people per day with the least amount of effort. If 65 has somethng to do with safety, why then doesn't the camera flash until you hit 76? And if that's so unsafe, why then don't you get any points or have the ticket reported to your insurance? Any chance the state just wants to incent you to pay and keep violating so you can pay again?

I view the state as the real criminal and I speed (very safely) with a clear conscience. As a biker, I don't talk on my cell phone or text or fiddle with the radio dial or eat or drink or any of the other distractions. I am 110% focused on the road and traffic at all times and all my vehicles are impeccably maintained and high performance. Believe me, I'm not the guy you have to worry about out there unless you're squatting in the left lane with a string of cars trying to pass you on the right.
 
Old 12-16-2009, 09:43 AM
 
Location: Verde Valley AZ
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Then you should know that these tickets are bogus. They are also civil, not criminal tickets so they can not issue a warrant out for your arrest. I was not slamming you either. I actually feel bad for you since you paid the ticket and you are unemployed. If you do get another one, just avoid the process server and you get off scot free after 120 days.
Thanks for the advice but I know I won't be getting another ticket! lol
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