Leaving Phoenix for somewhere with Jobs

[OnYourSide]

brightbutdownn: This is an interesting article on how Phoenix's population growth rate has been flat since 2007. As you have been discussing, jobs are a main driving force in migration patterns.

"Metropolitan Phoenix's population has remained basically flat since 2007.

That calculation will generate its own set of questions in an area with an economy based on growth. At the same time, it may be the first accurate estimate of population growth here in years.

This latest population estimate is the conclusion of an 18-month analysis by more than 30 of the state's top economists and business and government leaders, who are trying to fix Arizona's method for tracking population. Their report, "Influx/Outflux: Metropolitan Phoenix," was presented Tuesday at an Urban Land Institute Arizona meeting."

Phoenix population growth rate flat since '07

[OnYourSide]

Originally Posted by brightbutdownn

I think that we will find that jobs are the primary factor in future relocation trends. Other demographic events are of influence as well, but the fall-out of the economy has changed that for a lot of people.

Job creation is another relocation indicator to watch. Areas that advance in this manner will gain the demographic trends that you speak of. The BLS lists some information regarding job creation in their quarterly reports and in their surveys.

[brightbutdownn]

OnYourSide, this will likely come into fruition, as some economists have already been discussing. Relocation statistics are heavily influenced:

"ASU Economist: Local job market won't recover until 2014 or 2015"

"Arizona’s beleaguered job market won’t recover until 2014 or 2015 and many of the state’s jobless have left for other markets, according to a leading state economist.


Arizona State University economist Dennis Hoffman said Thursday at a conference in Paradise Valley that, despite some reports, Arizona ranks with the likes of Michigan when it comes to unemployment, decreased personal income and spending.


Arizona’s unemployment rate for October was 9.3 percent, up from 9.1 percent in September and 6.2 percent in October 2008, the Arizona Department of Commerce reported Thursday. Michigan’s latest jobless rate is 15.3 percent, according to the U.S. Bureau of Labor Statistics.
“Don’t be deceived by (Arizona’s lower rate),” Hoffman told the Economic Club of Phoenix. “Many of our unemployed have left the state.”


His assertion goes directly against an Urban Land Institute report put out earlier this week, which contends Arizona has not lost population during the recession.


Major cutbacks in the home-building and construction sectors, downturns in the tourism sector and immigration crackdowns have pushed some undocumented workers to other U.S. markets or to Mexico. The job market in Phoenix has been weak in the professional services, communications, real estate and construction sectors.


Hoffman, a professor at ASU’s W.P. Carey School of Business, said he expects the state to lose population in 2009, and the state’s economy still hinges on population growth."


ASU economist: Local job market won’t recover until 2014 or 2015 - Phoenix Business Journal:

[snowflake13]

Originally Posted by brightbutdownn

bluebelt, and the 401k borrowing can only last so long. joninaz, the focus has been on the relocation of former Phoenicians to places where there are jobs. My personal education isn't of a great deal of relevance to that topic.

How is your education not relevant to the topic? The topic is you are looking for a job?? If you are looking for a professional job, as you stated back in the early pages you had a masters degree and planned to use it. It then has EVERYTHING to do with your job search....unless of course when you stated you had a "masters degree and it wasn't in any of the hard sciences" you were lying. then in that case....no one can help you unless you are truthful about the situation.

[brightbutdownn]

Hi snowflake13. This has been a thread to discuss the relocation of individuals out of Phoenix, specifically in regards to job markets. My personal education matters to myself, but this thread isn't about me. Understanding and discussing the migration patterns in relation to the job market has been helpful for myself though.

[Grannysroost]

Originally Posted by brightbutdownn

Hi. It's been over a year and I still haven't been able to find employment around Phoenix. What are some recommendations from other people that have left Phoenix for jobs? Texas seems to have one of the healthiest economies in nation. NYC is doing OK if in high level finance. I know that everywhere is hurting to some degree, but Arizona is one of the few states that has yet to stabilize from the Recession.

No you said you have not been able to get a job around Phoenix for over a year...it is pertinent as it was about you...People asked what you were looking for...enough said. And if you don't have an answer by now...you won't.