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This is an unedited photo I took Thurs night of an amazing sunset here. The shutter speed is obviously slowed down and a watermark added but other than that I just posted as it. Like others I usually manually adjusting colors on the camera with minor touch ups on a program, altho I haven't figured out the colored front with black and white background. That's cool
the problem is the op is confusing two issues. you can have satisfaction because you like a photo and its composition and look .
but the mere fact you selected vivid in camera as opposed to clicking on vivid in your sofware is a moot point.
in fact most cameras today use a variation of nikons picture controls.
you can select the picture profile as far as a neutral , a landscape look , vivid , etc or you have the exact same same clicks in lightroom , photoshop or capure nx2 and can duplicate that out of camera as well.
see where i am going ?
i tend to shoot very bland and flat in neutral. adding saturation ,contrast and sharpening in camera fools the histogram into thinking you are further to the right than you really are before blowing out.
you would not give my photos as shot a 2nd look. at times they even look washed out.
but once out of camera i add back all the things that i held back in camera.
the satisfaction comes from the photo, not the fact it was processed in or out of camera. usually they only folks that make that distinction are those that have little to no processing skills out of camera .
no competent knowledgable photographer whether amateur or pro would ever make a comment about getting greater satisfaction processing in camera vs out of camera . they understand it would be a silly meaningless statement. the satisfaction is all about the photo no matter how it is arrived at.
First, do not type in all lowercase letters. Capitalize the first letter of your sentences. You seem like you're angry at the world, illiterate, or both otherwise.
Second, one logical reason for a good SOOC photograph producing satisfaction is that you got it right on the first try.
First, do not type in all lowercase letters. Capitalize the first letter of your sentences. You seem like you're angry at the world, illiterate, or both otherwise.
Second, one logical reason for a good SOOC photograph producing satisfaction is that you got it right on the first try.
Are discussing text? or photos? why does it matter how someone types? if typing on an iPhone God Help us all!
OK...Which part did you get right here? composition? lighting? subject? the fact that the camera shot part of the image in color is related ONLY to the camera manufacturer and not you. All you did was to push a button on the camera telling the camera to isolate a certain part and make it yellow. This option was available back in 2006 on basic Point and Shot Canon models. I can do this with the Saturation sliders in Lightroom in less than 2 seconds regardless of what I got "in-camera". My goal regarding getting it right in camera has to do with composition, time of day of the shoot, subject I am photographing, mood created by lighting, and the vision I have for a certain image. The fact that the camera can set its own saturation is irrelevant to me. I never use it in camera because my subjects always change, and that would give me an extra thing to do on a shoot that is timed and not available to me all day. Shoot RAW, and then you've captured ALL the information possible from a scene, and then you can use your creativity to process in any way.
Are discussing text? or photos? why does it matter how someone types? if typing on an iPhone God Help us all!
OK...Which part did you get right here? composition? lighting? subject? the fact that the camera shot part of the image in color is related ONLY to the camera manufacturer and not you. All you did was to push a button on the camera telling the camera to isolate a certain part and make it yellow. This option was available back in 2006 on basic Point and Shot Canon models. I can do this with the Saturation sliders in Lightroom in less than 2 seconds regardless of what I got "in-camera". My goal regarding getting it right in camera has to do with composition, time of day of the shoot, subject I am photographing, mood created by lighting, and the vision I have for a certain image. The fact that the camera can set its own saturation is irrelevant to me. I never use it in camera because my subjects always change, and that would give me an extra thing to do on a shoot that is timed and not available to me all day. Shoot RAW, and then you've captured ALL the information possible from a scene, and then you can use your creativity to process in any way.
I'm sorry, but you must have misread me, because I explicitly said that I did NOT use any "point color" mode. I simply was in automatic or shutter priority, had the focus set to MF, and snapped the picture.
First, do not type in all lowercase letters. Capitalize the first letter of your sentences. You seem like you're angry at the world, illiterate, or both otherwise.
Maybe when you win more $5500 from City Data for the helpfulness of your posts, like MathJak did, your critiques on his writing might actually carry some weight.
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Second, one logical reason for a good SOOC photograph producing satisfaction is that you got it right on the first try.
First try? Who said? How many shots did they expend in trying to "get it right the first time"? Folks who post-process in raw are far more likely to get it right the first time actually.
It's quite silly to argue about which is best from a photo straight out of the camera or not Don't you realize that your digital camera is already processing your photo as it takes it? What you see with your own eyes (except as I will explain below on the 3rd paragraph) never is the same as what the sensor processes into a photo. What you see on the photo is nothing but how the camera (a sensor and computer) responded to a program in the camera. In the case of film, it's just a chemical reaction when exposed to light.
Lets say that you are a portraiture photographer and a customer requests that the photos don't show the pimples on the face, or a cold-sore on the lip. Are you going to tell the person that it's best to to leave the photo as is, straight from the camera? How about a photo that's underexposed? How about if you take a RAW photo: in this case, are you going to post it straight out of the camera, or are you going to use a RAW converter to process the photo so that it looks similar to what you saw thought the viewfinder when taking the photo?
Exception examples:
a. A forensic specialist takes a photo of a stab wound (in this case, he or she is showing a stab wound for a reason)
b. The OP's photo of a leaf (all I see is a yellow leaf that's not out of the ordinary. It's just one of countless yellow leaves I have seen through the years, it does not tell me a story, it does not imply anything, and so on. All I get from it is that the photo came straight from the camera, not because of the photo itself, but because that's what the OP said
Are discussing text? or photos? why does it matter how someone types? if typing on an iPhone God Help us all!
OK...Which part did you get right here? composition? lighting? subject? the fact that the camera shot part of the image in color is related ONLY to the camera manufacturer and not you. All you did was to push a button on the camera telling the camera to isolate a certain part and make it yellow. This option was available back in 2006 on basic Point and Shot Canon models. I can do this with the Saturation sliders in Lightroom in less than 2 seconds regardless of what I got "in-camera". My goal regarding getting it right in camera has to do with composition, time of day of the shoot, subject I am photographing, mood created by lighting, and the vision I have for a certain image. The fact that the camera can set its own saturation is irrelevant to me. I never use it in camera because my subjects always change, and that would give me an extra thing to do on a shoot that is timed and not available to me all day. Shoot RAW, and then you've captured ALL the information possible from a scene, and then you can use your creativity to process in any way.
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The camera is just a little computer (plus a sensor) running a program as soon as the shutter button is pushed. If the program is designed to show a green caterpillar every time a photo of a yellow leaf is taken, all that would be seen in the photo is a green caterpillar
those with little understanding of photography do not realize they are not shooting things as they see it. each camera has its own manufacturers version of what they think looks purdy applied to your jpeg .
want proof, try to capture the shade of red of a coke can. i will bet you can not do it with a digital dslr.
no manufacturer has it right yet and as far as i know there is no dslr that has done it.
you will not hear one good photographer who shoots with a dslr ever say he is proud of his in camera settings.
he can be proud of his work but whether it is done in or out of camera it amounts to the same thing.
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I'm sorry, but you must have misread me, because I explicitly said that I did NOT use any "point color" mode. I simply was in automatic or shutter priority, had the focus set to MF, and snapped the picture.
wrong. your camera applies a color mode regardless of what you think or want. it applies the one the manufacturer programmed in. a sensors output has no color. all the color,brighness,sharpness and contrast is applied automaticall6y in your camera to a jpeg.
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