Newbury Market (Pittsburgh: taxes, price, to move)

[lifepgh2op]

Originally Posted by guy2073

That one is going to be small also, they said around the site of an aldi store.

Interesting. Grocery stores are the new hotels, I guess. How many can we support?

Maybe Meijer is looking at Newbury? Earth Fare was scouting the area years ago, too.

http://www.bizjournals.com/pittsburg...ery-store.html

[lifepgh2op]

Newer site plan:

http://pa-southfayette.civicplus.com...07?fileID=8635

Looks like the grocery store is on the far left, then UPMC, big box stores with a smaller town center or strip plazas behind the parking lot?, and I'm assuming that's TopGolf on the far right? With some possible restaurants or retail at the edge of the parking lot of TopGolf?

[Mugatu]

Thanks for this updated plan. I was really curious to see how it would change. That's definitely TopGolf at the far right. I guess that is UPMC at the center-left. It looks like they are trying to retain some of the "town center" concept but UPMC cut that in half.

That could be the grocery store at the left. It's interesting where the main entrance is. Right now, there are two rounded tunnels with low-clearance under the railroad bridge there. I'm sure that bridge would have to be overhauled. People at my job today were saying they heard rumors of a Kroger coming here. I'm not sure where they would have gotten this info though.

I also noticed they broke ground yesterday on the small complex at the corner of 50 and Hickory Grade. South Fayette Commons I think it will be called. A Dunkin Donuts and a bank is all they have announced as tenants so far.

The old Knights Inn is also totally gone now. They will build a new hotel at the site. And the old theater is pretty much gone as well. Not sure if anything is planned for that location yet.

I hope they have a plan to alleviate the horrendous traffic here! I can't imagine how much worse it will be once this is all built out.

[Dequindre]

Is the Pittsburgh metro area becoming oversaturated with retail centers? That, along with the general uncertainty and frequent bankruptcies in the brick and mortar retail trade, may be what is causing this project to move so slowly.

[lifepgh2op]

Originally Posted by Mugatu

Thanks for this updated plan. I was really curious to see how it would change. That's definitely TopGolf at the far right. I guess that is UPMC at the center-left. It looks like they are trying to retain some of the "town center" concept but UPMC cut that in half.

That could be the grocery store at the left. It's interesting where the main entrance is. Right now, there are two rounded tunnels with low-clearance under the railroad bridge there. I'm sure that bridge would have to be overhauled. People at my job today were saying they heard rumors of a Kroger coming here. I'm not sure where they would have gotten this info though.

I also noticed they broke ground yesterday on the small complex at the corner of 50 and Hickory Grade. South Fayette Commons I think it will be called. A Dunkin Donuts and a bank is all they have announced as tenants so far.

The old Knights Inn is also totally gone now. They will build a new hotel at the site. And the old theater is pretty much gone as well. Not sure if anything is planned for that location yet.

I hope they have a plan to alleviate the horrendous traffic here! I can't imagine how much worse it will be once this is all built out.

I still wonder how much longer it will take for them to break ground on TopGolf and UPMC. Like you said, a lot of traffic and site work looks like it still needs to be completed. This project has gone on for years. Kroger would be nice, but they'd need to put in their gas station for fuel perks to have any competition with Giant Eagle. It could be a Lidl, too. I keep forgetting they have been scouting the area for stores. I thought I heard Uniontown and Wilkins Township, for starters. I forgot they were developing the old theater site and Knights Inn is going to be a Fairfield Inn from Marriott. Once everything is done, it's either going to be really nice off of that exit or a traffic nightmare.

[lifepgh2op]

Originally Posted by Dequindre

Is the Pittsburgh metro area becoming oversaturated with retail centers? That, along with the general uncertainty and frequent bankruptcies in the brick and mortar retail trade, may be what is causing this project to move so slowly.

Compared to other cities, no. Pittsburgh is still underserved when it comes to major retail. We do have a large uptick in vacancies though lately if you look at places like Century III, Pittsburgh Mills, and even The Waterfront, Station Square, and South Side Works. It seems like more places are closing than opening anymore and shopping habits have changed. Plus - location, location, location. I think Newbury is in a good spot being directly visible and accessible from I-79. The developers agreed with you, though, which is why they chose UPMC as an anchor. Retail is too uncertain at this time to have a project full of just that.

[lifepgh2op]

I'll be interested to see how the Commissioner's vote next week after the hearing last night. Sounds like mixed feelings from the residents of Newbury; mostly bringing up the same thoughts that were discussed on here. Being that Newbury is on its 14th site plan revision, and the amount of retailers who have been closing most or all of their stores (hhgregg announced their demise this week), I think UPMC will be approved. I really hope TopGolf is a go.

South Fayette hears comments on proposed UPMC hospital | Pittsburgh Post-Gazette

[lifepgh2op]

Originally Posted by lifepgh2op

I'll be interested to see how the Commissioner's vote next week after the hearing last night. Sounds like mixed feelings from the residents of Newbury; mostly bringing up the same thoughts that were discussed on here. Being that Newbury is on its 14th site plan revision, and the amount of retailers who have been closing most or all of their stores (hhgregg announced their demise this week), I think UPMC will be approved. I really hope TopGolf is a go.



South Fayette hears comments on proposed UPMC hospital | Pittsburgh Post-Gazette

So, after all of that waiting, South Fayette commissioners finally (August) approved UPMC to build a hospital at Newbury.

Last night, UPMC announced that it was abandoning its plans to build at Newbury in South Fayette, and would continue to search for a site in the South Hills:



UPMC scraps plans for South Fayette hospital | Pittsburgh Post-Gazette

UPMC says no hospital for South Fayette, will explore South Hills | TribLIVE

[okaydorothy]

Originally Posted by lifepgh2op

So, after all of that waiting, South Fayette commissioners finally (August) approved UPMC to build a hospital at Newbury.

Last night, UPMC announced that it was abandoning its plans to build at Newbury in South Fayette, and would continue to search for a site in the South Hills:



UPMC scraps plans for South Fayette hospital | Pittsburgh Post-Gazette

UPMC says no hospital for South Fayette, will explore South Hills | TribLIVE

I am sure people here will be happy. Now what are they going to do with the property that is vacant?

[lifepgh2op]

Originally Posted by okaydorothy

I am sure people here will be happy. Now what are they going to do with the property that is vacant?

I think they should just look for another entertainment anchor comparable to Topgolf. Maybe something like Flix Brewhouse or iFLY.