late 20's moving to Pittsburgh, how is the Oakland area? (safe neighborhood, live)

[BrianTH]

Don't forget to include car accidents when considering safety issues.

[tranceFusion]

Originally Posted by kovyman1127

It comes down to this little quiz:

Based on police "incidents" (shooting/robbery/break in, etc)...rank the following neighborhoods that would have the "least" incidents:

Shadyside, Wilkinsburg, Homewood, Mt. Lebanon, Jefferson Hills, Pleasant Hills, Nevillewood, Upper St. Claire.

I think Shadyside would come in 3rd...

I seem to recall Pittsburgh having approx 80 more neighborhoods than this.

[kovyman1127]

Originally Posted by tranceFusion

I seem to recall Pittsburgh having approx 80 more neighborhoods than this.

And the price of tea in China is?? I love how when people are confronted with reality, reality must change.

The most "police incidents" in the Pittsbugh area come from Wilkinsburg and Homewood. We can talk about Regent Square, flowery "improvment" in the area, etc.

But, that does not change the fact that "living" in this area is more dangerous than other area's of the city..

[tranceFusion]

Originally Posted by kovyman1127

And the price of tea in China is?? I love how when people are confronted with reality, reality must change.

The most "police incidents" in the Pittsbugh area come from Wilkinsburg and Homewood. We can talk about Regent Square, flowery "improvment" in the area, etc.

But, that does not change the fact that "living" in this area is more dangerous than other area's of the city..

the question wasn't regarding Wilkinsburg or Homewood. The question was whether "Shadyside is exceedingly safe" and you seemed to indicated it was the 3rd most safe neighborhood, by comparing it to only 10% of the rest of the city (and you included the absolute worst).

[BrianTH]

Originally Posted by kovyman1127

The most "police incidents" in the Pittsbugh area come from Wilkinsburg and Homewood. We can talk about Regent Square, flowery "improvment" in the area, etc.

But, that does not change the fact that "living" in this area is more dangerous than other area's of the city..

This logic requires the crime issues relevant to a given resident's safety to be evenly spread throughout Wilkinsburg. That definitely is not the case, which is what we are trying to point out when discussing the various different areas within Wilkinsburg.

In other words, this is an example of the ecological fallacy:

Ecological fallacy - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

[kovyman1127]

Let's put this so you guys can understand it:

If I live closer to the shore, I have more chance of being affected by a Hurricane. Even if I don't live directly on the shore itself.

[drshang]

Shadyside is probably the best choice for a new resident because it is a "safe" choice for someone between 25-35. Safe being that it's less likely to offend you. I wouldn't call it a safe neighborhood (crime wise) but I wouldn't call it a dangerous one either. I think Shadyside is the perfect Pittsburgh starter neighborhood. Almost everyone I know who lived in Pittsburgh from another city started in Shadyside...they mostly moved to another area later on but did not regret their decision to move to Shaydside initially.

It's a good neighborhood because it has a little bit of everything (nightlife, food, shopping, location). It also has a very high concentration of people in the 25-35 demographic.

[BrianTH]

Originally Posted by kovyman1127

If I live closer to the shore, I have more chance of being affected by a Hurricane. Even if I don't live directly on the shore itself.

That's a terrible analogy. Hurricanes can be hundreds of miles in width, and they can move inland.

Your argument is more like: the U.S. gets a lot more tropical hurricanes than Canada, so you are better off living in Manitoba than North Dakota, to avoid all that tropical hurricane risk.

[greg42]

Originally Posted by tranceFusion

I seem to recall Pittsburgh having approx 80 more neighborhoods than this.

Not to mention only 2 of the 8 in the list mentioned are actually Pittsburgh neighborhoods. The rest are suburbs.

[kovyman1127]

Originally Posted by drshang

Shadyside is probably the best choice for a new resident because it is a "safe" choice for someone between 25-35. Safe being that it's less likely to offend you. I wouldn't call it a safe neighborhood (crime wise) but I wouldn't call it a dangerous one either. I think Shadyside is the perfect Pittsburgh starter neighborhood. Almost everyone I know who lived in Pittsburgh from another city started in Shadyside...they mostly moved to another area later on but did not regret their decision to move to Shaydside initially.

It's a good neighborhood because it has a little bit of everything (nightlife, food, shopping, location). It also has a very high concentration of people in the 25-35 demographic.

Amen!!! Worded exactly right!!!