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Old 10-06-2011, 08:02 AM
 
Location: Pittsburgh
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I just hope that something will be done with the property last thing we need is the Saks building sitting dormant like Lord&Taylor's building has been sitting for last 6 years.
All that anyone can hope for is a non retail business takes its place. Retail in the city is over. Even the old Kaufmann's that has downgraded itself to Macy's is getting smaller and smaller. I think it will go at some point. The city is slowly turning into daylight activities and it closes like the Strip District. I was walking there last night in the ghost town and it is nothing like it was when I was younger. The city used to have things going on. Sure, Liberty Ave. was seedy at best, but it was active. Is a ghost town an improvement? Probably, but it sure is boring.j

Hornes was another great store downtown. During Christmas the city was really alive. Now? I don't think there is much going on for Christmas in the city. Best to go to Shadyside or Ross Park Mall. Still the feel is NOTHING compared to downtown back in the day. It was like a tiny NYC 5th ave. Yes, I said tiny, so don't compare them too much.
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Old 10-06-2011, 09:13 AM
 
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I just hope that something will be done with the property last thing we need is the Saks building sitting dormant like Lord&Taylor's building has been sitting for last 6 years.
Unlike the former Mellon Bank building, in this case they could just raze the Saks building without objection and start over. So I think that now becomes a premier possibility for the next office tower project in Pittsburgh.
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Old 10-06-2011, 04:57 PM
 
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Hornes was another great store downtown. During Christmas the city was really alive. Now? I don't think there is much going on for Christmas in the city. Best to go to Shadyside or Ross Park Mall. Still the feel is NOTHING compared to downtown back in the day. It was like a tiny NYC 5th ave. Yes, I said tiny, so don't compare them too much.
Malls don't even come close in comparison to back in the day when urban downtown areas were the place to go. I always think of Petula Clark's song "Downtown" and how accurate it was. Now the department stores, movie theaters and non-chain restaurants are pretty much gone.

To me, malls are bland and boring with the same stores and their (fast) food courts. Blah.
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Old 10-06-2011, 05:29 PM
 
Location: Pittsburgh
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Malls don't even come close in comparison to back in the day when urban downtown areas were the place to go. I always think of Petula Clark's song "Downtown" and how accurate it was. Now the department stores, movie theaters and non-chain restaurants are pretty much gone.

To me, malls are bland and boring with the same stores and their (fast) food courts. Blah.
Couldn't agree more, but Pittsburgh's downtown is no more. Just not enough people live down there to shop and make a go of it. I don't feel the model is done as someone oddly suggested, it is our region's downtown has lost so much that it isn't a destination. Kaufmann's was a huge turning point. That was a very special place. Lots of other cities have great downtown shopping districts and probably always will, but Pittsburgh closes after 6:00PM. To the mall we go. At least our region has one good mall. Ross Park is nice. Of course it is a joke compared to the days of Kaufmann's, Hornes and Saks, but what can you do? Time to move on.
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Old 10-06-2011, 05:45 PM
 
Location: Pittsburgh PA
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I agree that downtown has lost a lot of what used to make it special, even Macys is downsizing. There needs to be some new businesses moving in for downtown to even hope to compete with the suburbs yet alone be a destination for the metro area and justify the parking rates (parking in places such as Baltimore and Philly is actually cheaper. Downtown Pittsburgh you are lucky to find any garage under $15 if you want to spend any real time there.
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Old 10-06-2011, 05:47 PM
 
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Look to downtown for what it has become. The central office market, the center of entertainment, a growing presence of mostly mediocre eating establishments, the second largest post secondary education center behind Oakland and a resdential concentration.
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Old 10-06-2011, 05:55 PM
 
Location: Greensburg, PA
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Saks just seemed to be like a luxury Bon-Ton, merchandise and apparel for old people but at ridiculous prices.
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Old 10-06-2011, 05:59 PM
 
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I'll miss Saks for the sole reason that they're the only retailer in the area I've found that carries very nice suits & who also will put them heavily on sale at times (particularly after christmas).
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Old 10-06-2011, 06:07 PM
 
Location: Pittsburgh PA
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Look to downtown for what it has become. The central office market, the center of entertainment, a growing presence of mostly mediocre eating establishments, the second largest post secondary education center behind Oakland and a resdential concentration.
it isn't bad, it just still leaves a lot to be desired. I say that retail places such as Walgreens and Target being there would help a lot. Also I think that there should be another restaurant put in the to of US Steel tower. Nothing quite like having a romantic dinner with a priceless view of the city
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Old 10-06-2011, 06:35 PM
 
Location: Pittsburgh
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Downtown is a large RIDC Park. Live during the day, dead at night, unless there is a special event. It is what it is.
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