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Old 10-25-2010, 10:06 PM
 
Location: City of McKeesport
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Well, the building was still in use, so could it have been that bad?

And there are only a million empty lots in that area... They had to pick the one lot with a building on it, and an attractive one at that.

I am an old-building-hugger and will always be on a crusade to save these kinds of buildings, but it could have been the Paramount Film Exchange a couple years ago.
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Old 10-25-2010, 10:48 PM
 
Location: Pittsburgh, PA
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Well, the building was still in use, so could it have been that bad?

And there are only a million empty lots in that area... They had to pick the one lot with a building on it, and an attractive one at that.

I am an old-building-hugger and will always be on a crusade to save these kinds of buildings, but it could have been the Paramount Film Exchange a couple years ago.
It was in bad shape, the stairwells were very narrow and the building was just very musty and dark. The building was only used be WDUQ by the time the school announced it would be replaced by a dorm hall. I like old buildings but just because something is old doesn't mean it should be saved especially when cost prohibitive to modernize and in general disrepair. Compared to other older buildings on campus it wasn't that nice of a building. Old Main, the chapel, Canevin Hall, and the Laval House are older or just as old and in much better shape if you want to see the nicer old buildings on campus.
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Old 10-26-2010, 09:02 AM
 
Location: Pittsburgh
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It was an interesting-looking building. Sometimes architects can do something like keep the facade and build up and out from there. It's not always cheaper to knock down rather than reuse--many times it's the opposite.
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Old 10-26-2010, 01:51 PM
 
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I agree it is a shame. This is the bittersweet thing about universities located in areas like this--they have money to spend on long-term projects and can attract residents, which is good. But they are also very particular about location, and won't necessarily show much respect for older buildings which stand in the way of their campus plans.
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Old 10-26-2010, 02:59 PM
 
Location: NW Penna.
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The other thing to think about is costs. It is unfortunate, but very true, that often it is much cheaper to build new than refurbish.

And while the outside might look nice (to me this is just a box though) what about the inside?
It's only "cheaper" because the cheapo replacement building is not anywhere near the same quality and the materials of construction as the what they tore down. USA needs to loosen up a little and get sensible about lead paint and asbestos and make it easier, not more difficult, to rehab and reuse these older buildings. In many ways, the USA is heavily prejudiced against keeping old buildings. What's the problem? Europe has used theirs for centuries, already.
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Old 10-26-2010, 05:34 PM
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Location: Foot of the Rockies
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It was an interesting-looking building. Sometimes architects can do something like keep the facade and build up and out from there. It's not always cheaper to knock down rather than reuse--many times it's the opposite.
Our school district did that to an old school building here.

I will add: Kids don't live the same way in the dorms as they did when that building was built. They have computers, all sorts of electronic equipment actually. They like to have refrigerators and microwaves. (Some schools provide these in their dorms.) They like to have A/C in the summer. HVAC systems have improved over time, also insulation. It was probably the right decision.

I agree with tallysmom that the building looks like a box to me.
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Old 10-26-2010, 08:38 PM
 
Location: City of McKeesport
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Our school district did that to an old school building here.

I will add: Kids don't live the same way in the dorms as they did when that building was built. They have computers, all sorts of electronic equipment actually. They like to have refrigerators and microwaves. (Some schools provide these in their dorms.) They like to have A/C in the summer. HVAC systems have improved over time, also insulation. It was probably the right decision.

I agree with tallysmom that the building looks like a box to me.
The systems of any building can be updated.

Most of the new buildings are just as boxy, without the detail that the older buildings had.
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Old 10-26-2010, 08:52 PM
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The systems of any building can be updated.

Most of the new buildings are just as boxy, without the detail that the older buildings had.
Sometimes it is much less costly to start anew. My father owned a "This Old House" that he could never seem to get to stay warm, no matter how much insulation he had installed.
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Old 10-27-2010, 06:37 AM
 
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I am quite sure that if that building hadn't been sitting on Duquesne's campus, it could have been profitably retrofitted for use as an upscale apartment building.

The problem is that Duquesne doesn't want a 5-story upscale apartment building. It wants a 12-story dorm.
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Old 10-27-2010, 07:03 AM
 
Location: southwestern PA... where the nest is now empty!
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The problem is that Duquesne doesn't want a 5-story upscale apartment building. It wants a 12-story dorm.
Doesn't want and doesn't need....
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