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Old 11-05-2010, 08:20 PM
 
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And the Waterfront has the advantage of free parking to draw customers in, while SSW does not (unless you get a validation, e.g. at the Cheesecake Factory).
This why I go all the way out to Settlers Ridge for REI. They never ever learn.
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Old 11-06-2010, 07:32 AM
 
Location: Portland, OR
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I like Southh Side Works, but JoBeth wasn't a good book store. They should get Barnes and Noble (just my opinion, lol)
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Old 11-06-2010, 07:41 AM
 
Location: Portland, OR
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Another thing too. Everytime I rode the bus down there, I never knew where to wait for it. The busses were always detoured and the bus drivers were also confused to where the bus stops were.

I agree with Aqua Teen about bringing the Music Fest back there. Maybe they need a place to where we can see a band (House of Blues?)

They also need shops and restaraunts that are unique to Pittsburgh (new to the area or independent) that would appeal to a wider appeal of shoppers.

They need an anchor store.

I am just thankful that SSW isn't a ghetto place.
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Old 11-06-2010, 09:04 AM
 
Location: Crafton, PA
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I am worried about the SSW long-term. I do not think the Toby Keith restaurant is a good fit at all...it doesn't seem to jive with anything else down there. The old JB location was great but the new store was pathetic and the selection poor. Too many of the restaurants down there serve overpriced, sub-par food. There are a few parking garages yet the large lot behind REI remains closed off and empty.

I look at the housing directly across the large parking lot from REI and it already looks somewhat dilapidated and in disrepair. I had heard about a potential high-rise condo development a few years back but this apparently died. Is it possible the SSW developers greatly over-estimated the demand for housing?
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Old 11-06-2010, 12:27 PM
 
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Not sure what housing you are talking about across from REI - the only housing in the SSW are The Flats on Carson St. and Carson Street Commons on 24th/25th. There is tons of demand for housing, the problem is capital. The way real estate developers get capital is by finishing one development and leveraging it to begin the next development. Unfortunately banks aren't lending money so there is no development. There is talk to convert the old Goodwill corporate offices into apartments.

SSW will be fine, everything is just happening a lot slower than expected. But this is true everywhere, not just the Southside.
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Old 11-11-2010, 10:52 PM
 
Location: The canyon (with my pistols and knife)
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Well now we know the real reason why Joseph Beth Booksellers closed their store on the South Side.
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Old 11-12-2010, 10:30 AM
 
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Well now we know the real reason why Joseph Beth Booksellers closed their store on the South Side.
Thanks for the link. It's related to what I wanted to post at first. SSW may have problems but the main problem with the JB bookstore is the same one that plagues the whole industry -- didn't the B&N in Squirrel Hill close down about a year ago? Among all the technological and behavioral changes of the past 15 years (Kindle/Amazon, iTunes, etc), I'm not sure a single one of them has impacted traditional book/record stores in a favorable manner.
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Old 11-15-2010, 07:18 PM
 
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I am worried about the SSW long-term. I do not think the Toby Keith restaurant is a good fit at all...it doesn't seem to jive with anything else down there. The old JB location was great but the new store was pathetic and the selection poor. Too many of the restaurants down there serve overpriced, sub-par food. There are a few parking garages yet the large lot behind REI remains closed off and empty.

I look at the housing directly across the large parking lot from REI and it already looks somewhat dilapidated and in disrepair. I had heard about a potential high-rise condo development a few years back but this apparently died. Is it possible the SSW developers greatly over-estimated the demand for housing?
Oh please god no they aren't seriously considering this are they? The SSW will be forever ruined for me if they put that in. Bring in a Planet Hollywood or Rainforest Cafe or something.

Sad to see the bookstore go hopefully something decent will replace it.
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Old 11-15-2010, 07:36 PM
 
Location: Work is based nationwide
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Unhappy Early Upscale plans for South Side Works

The so called upscale condo space was to be part of an upscale lifestyle development along one of the river front parcels in the development. The upscale medium rise building was to include a hotel managed by the W chain, several upper floors of top notch condo's with massive glass and outdoor decking and a full service upscale spa and fitness center with a large outdoor and indoor pool. Efforts for the spa included management by the famous Arizona and Miami Beach health outfit 'Canyon Ranch'

Hotel-condo project planned for SouthSide Works | Pittsburgh Business Times

Lack of financing helped to kill the project. I personally feel the market would support such a hotel, condo combination and associated special spa services. One of a kind in the Pittsburgh market.

No doubt this would have set the development far apart from the rest of retail development in the region. Now a faded pipe dream but certainly it could be far worse.
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Old 11-15-2010, 07:58 PM
 
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This why I go all the way out to Settlers Ridge for REI. They never ever learn.
How far do you drive out of your way to avoid paying to park? The gas and wear and tear on your car are probably more than the couple dollars it costs to park there.
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