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Old 06-13-2011, 08:46 AM
 
Location: Virginia
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As long as Pittsburgh is COMPETING with its suburbs/exurbs for what little population growth and incoming job opportunities we're experiencing, then continue to expect this hostile relationship between those of us who dwell within the city and want to shield her from further decline and those in the suburbs/exurbs who couldn't care less about the city's future as long as life continues to be "milk and honey" in the 'burbs.
But.... Pittsburgh isn't declining. It's on the upswing. It may not be growing at a gallop, but steady growth is very good thing. At any rate, it's not declining.
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Old 06-13-2011, 08:46 AM
 
Location: ɥbɹnqsʇʇıd
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The airport. It would be dumb for them to be on the other side of Town somewhere.
It sounds crazy but the airport is actually FedEx Express which is as completely different entity that Ground has no control over. FedEx Ground and Home Delivery are are truck based and they have hubs all over the place.
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Old 06-13-2011, 08:51 AM
 
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Eh, you might be right in some cases but you are ignoring how important the bottom line is for companies. After working there for a year plus they explicitly told us that they moved out there to avoid the taxes. Plus there were no similar firms in Robinson that FedEx could have benefited from being around.
But that's my point. FedEx isn't the kind of company you would expect to benefit a lot of agglomeration. So it makes sense for them to locate in the periphery instead.

Here is a story from NYC about the opposite sort of thing:

http://www.nytimes.com/2011/06/09/ny...-stamford.html

To sum up, UBS moved their HQ out to the suburbs (in Connecticut), but are now finding they are having trouble attracting the talent they need and providing the necessary level of service to their clients, so are looking to move their investment banking division back to Manhattan. Investment banking is the sort of business that benefits greatly from agglomeration. The story also notes that Google has bought a building in Manhattan, which is another business you would expect to benefit from agglomeration.

The point is not that core urban areas are the right sort of place for all businesses, just some. Faced with a variety of unnecessary costs, the other sorts of businesses will prefer locating in the periphery, which is good because that leaves more space in the core area for the businesses which actually benefit from being in the core.
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Old 06-13-2011, 08:53 AM
 
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If I was a CEO of a medium sized company, I would probably look outside the city due to all the costs not only to the company, but to the employees that have huge costs of getting in and out of the city.
If you were a smart CEO, first you would assess what kind of business you were running, including what sorts of employees you needed to attract and where they would prefer to live. Where you should locate your operations would depend on those answers, and you might well locate different operations in different areas.
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Old 06-13-2011, 08:58 AM
 
Location: Pittsburgh
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If you were a smart CEO, first you would assess what kind of business you were running, including what sorts of employees you needed to attract and where they would prefer to live. Where you should locate your operations would depend on those answers, and you might well locate different operations in different areas.
Not many medium and small companies headquartered downtown. Just have a look at all the RIDC Parks and South Point and more that are around that are headquarters. Just the way it is Brian and many of these companies have been around a very long time, so they must have been pretty smart. Bottom line is, there isn't much in the way of advantages being downtown unless you are the likes of UPMC or PNC. Those are NO small to medium sized. Starting a company downtown would be tough. No thanks.
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Old 06-13-2011, 09:03 AM
 
Location: Virginia
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What happens to Cranberry when gas prices hit $6/gallon? Just curious.
If gas prices go up, the people who live and work in Cranberry will be happier than the ones who live in Cranberry but have to drive to downtown to work. BTW, living in a city doesn't guarantee you will not have a difficult commute to work, even if your office is in the city, too. It's quite possible to live and work in two different parts of a city, you know.

The bottom line is, whether you choose to live in suburb or city, strive to live a short distance from where you work.
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Old 06-13-2011, 09:07 AM
 
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Not many medium and small companies headquartered downtown.
Oh, there are a bunch of them. Law firms, for example, are all small-medium companies, and there are many law firms located Downtown. Again, it is about the type of business, not the size.
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Old 06-13-2011, 09:08 AM
 
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If gas prices go up, the people who live and work in Cranberry will be happier than the ones who live in Cranberry but have to drive to downtown to work.
Cranberry may also get better commuter transit to the City. It is certainly close enough.
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Old 06-13-2011, 09:10 AM
 
Location: Pittsburgh
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If gas prices go up, the people who live and work in Cranberry will be happier than the ones who live in Cranberry but have to drive to downtown to work.
Very true. SAE headquarters have been in Cranberry for many years. Pretty impressive little company. I am sure there are plenty of others out that way.
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Old 06-13-2011, 09:20 AM
 
Location: Virginia
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having the same problems that Tysons Corner, Virginia has with congestion
LOL I was wondering how long it would be before the inevitable Nova bashing would begin. I'm surprised, though, to see congestion being the latest excuse to bash. I like downtown Pittsburgh but it's hardly a traffic free area.
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