Hazelwood LTV vs. Carrie Furnace (Pittsburgh, Oakland: school, university, costs)

[airwave09]

One thing that I cannot seem to grasp is why the county has spent so much money to prep the Carrie Furnace brownfield site, and yet it is somehow completely ignoring the Hazelwood LTV site.

Yet the latter is just a stones throw from the booming Southside and Oakland, and the former is adjacent to a suburban shopping complex and one of the most economically depressed towns in the state.

Does anyone have any inside knowledge of why the site that's farther away from everything is getting development priority?

[SlurmsMcKenzie]

I have wondered the same thing, too. The Hazelwood site seems like prime university expansion territory. I wonder if the cleanup costs are higher there.

[Faer]

MFX limbo. This is in the works though http://www.post-gazette.com/pg/11021/1119641-53.stm

[BrianTH]

Originally Posted by airwave09

One thing that I cannot seem to grasp is why the county has spent so much money to prep the Carrie Furnace brownfield site, and yet it is somehow completely ignoring the Hazelwood LTV site.

Old school Pittsburgh-style division of labor. The County has taken the lead on Carrie, whereas ALMONO has taken the lead on Hazelwood. ALMONO is made up of four big endowments (the Benedum Foundation, the Heinz Endowments, the Richard King Mellon Foundation, and the McCune Foundation), plus RIDC as the managing partner. That makes ALMONO "private" in the non-government sense, but it is very much a public effort.

[I_Like_Spam]

They definitely have been developing the LTV aka J&L site, but it is just really huge.

The J&L works extended clean to the Brady St. Bridge (adjacent to the Birmingham Bridge of today).

The office park on the banks of the Bon is all on former J&L land as well as the Hot Metal Bridge which was part of the mill back in the day.

I think they just need someone with a big idea and big bucks because the still undeveloped part is still pretty big.

[airwave09]

Originally Posted by Faer

MFX limbo. This is in the works though UPMC hopes to build vaccine center in Hazelwood

Wow, that would be extremely ambitious and awesome for the city if that got built. Still that would only be 1/6 of the entire LTV site. I wonder if there is a comprehensive plan in the works for the rest of the site yet, or if the failed expressway has kept them on the back-burner.

[airwave09]

Originally Posted by BrianTH

Old school Pittsburgh-style division of labor. The County has taken the lead on Carrie, whereas ALMONO has taken the lead on Hazelwood. ALMONO is made up of four big endowments (the Benedum Foundation, the Heinz Endowments, the Richard King Mellon Foundation, and the McCune Foundation), plus RIDC as the managing partner. That makes ALMONO "private" in the non-government sense, but it is very much a public effort.

Great! I would love to see the plan ALMONO has for the site when it is finished being drawn up.

[Lobick]

Originally Posted by airwave09

Wow, that would be extremely ambitious and awesome for the city if that got built. Still that would only be 1/6 of the entire LTV site. I wonder if there is a comprehensive plan in the works for the rest of the site yet, or if the failed expressway has kept them on the back-burner.

UPMC won't bid for vaccine development facility

[BrianTH]

Well, that's a bummer.