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Old 04-30-2012, 07:11 PM
 
Location: ɥbɹnqsʇʇıd
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A cut in PAT means very little to us.
Tell that to the faces I see on public transit 5 days a week.

Seriously, my generation is ditching cars in favor of public transit but they'll look elsewhere if they're forced to buy a car that they can't afford.
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Old 04-30-2012, 07:46 PM
 
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Tell that to the faces I see on public transit 5 days a week.

Seriously, my generation is ditching cars in favor of public transit but they'll look elsewhere if they're forced to buy a car that they can't afford.
I wouldn't disagree that more people are going careless, but it's still the active choice of a minority of people in the younger generation. I personally don't know a single young person out of school that does not own a car here.
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Old 04-30-2012, 07:56 PM
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Location: Pittsburgh
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I wouldn't disagree that more people are going careless, but it's still the active choice of a minority of people in the younger generation. I personally don't know a single young person out of school that does not own a car here.
Yeah, this hardly makes the news these days. I may know one person that may feel the effects of the cut. Most will just adjust.
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Old 04-30-2012, 07:58 PM
 
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I wouldn't disagree that more people are going careless, but it's still the active choice of a minority of people in the younger generation. I personally don't know a single young person out of school that does not own a car here.
Going completely car free in Pittsburgh is a pretty tough thing to do. I don't think it's fair to say that a lack of car free young people equates to lack of young people who wish to be car free.

I'm 25, if PAT could get me to where I want to go and when I want to go, I would be a zip car user. Heck, if I didn't own my car outright, I'd probably be a zip car user as it is.
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Old 04-30-2012, 08:00 PM
 
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Yeah, this hardly makes the news these days. I may know one person that may feel the effects of the cut. Most will just adjust.
You're absolutely correct. The problem comes from the fact that for many people, adjusting may equate to leaving the region or becoming unemployed.
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Old 04-30-2012, 08:17 PM
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Location: Pittsburgh
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Going completely car free in Pittsburgh is a pretty tough thing to do.
It isn't a tough thing to do if you live around busways, or in and around Oakland/Shadyside or North Side. Sure if you live out in the burbs, it isn't easy. People just need to live in areas that work for the lifestyle they are looking for. I ride a bike to work and really most places. I live in a location that allows that. If I lived in Springdale, I don't think I would bother trying. If I lived about anywhere in the South Hills, it would be very tough for me to ride my bike to work or the city. Therefore, I planned accordingly. It really isn't that tough to figure out.
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Old 04-30-2012, 08:25 PM
 
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I could live car free if i wanted to as I can walk to work and all other necessary amenities quite easily, but couldn't see trading the freedom of going wherever you want whenever you want - transit here, even at its best can't provide that (I had no car in London & that worked ok) - plus I like fast cars too much
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Old 04-30-2012, 08:29 PM
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I could live car free if i wanted to as I can walk to work and all other necessary amenities quite easily, but couldn't see trading the freedom of going wherever you want whenever you want - transit here, even at its best can't provide that (I had no car in London & that worked ok) - plus I like fast cars too much
Yeah the US in general isn't very good car free, unless you are in the NYC area or at least the northeastern region. Pittsburgh is pretty small to be car free. Cool that some do it, but they are usually cyclists.
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Old 04-30-2012, 09:43 PM
 
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Yep, all those people using PAT to go Downtown will just have to move into the tens of thousands of empty housing units just sitting there waiting for them.
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Old 04-30-2012, 09:56 PM
 
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Yep, all those people using PAT to go Downtown will just have to move into the tens of thousands of empty housing units just sitting there waiting for them.
No, but they will demand private transit options.
These demands will be fulfilled by the free market.
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