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Old 06-16-2011, 03:50 PM
 
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Corbett should send you a check.
Onorato, Ravenstahl and Rendell just loves you to death you their kind of Dem, devoted and blindly loyal...Keep up the fight! They'll keep out of the way.
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Old 06-16-2011, 03:58 PM
 
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Onorato, Ravenstahl and Rendell just loves you to death you their kind of Dem, devoted and blindly loyal...Keep up the fight! They'll keep out of the way.
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Old 06-16-2011, 04:07 PM
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Onorato, Ravenstahl and Rendell just loves you to death you their kind of Dem, devoted and blindly loyal...Keep up the fight! They'll keep out of the way.
It is bad to tow the party lines blindly as it done so often on both sides. Right now Obama actually is breaking the constitution be not going through congress and waging war on Libya. Are we now redefining the term war? If a country drops a bomb on us is that an act of war? Seems it isn't these days.

Onorato was a new tax king.

Being blind to a party is why we get in such a mess in all levels of government, but most don't read about actual subject matters. Brain has one objective on here if you actually read his posts. I don't read many of them anymore since they really all say the same thing in different ways. Tax more and become socialist all the way. It is his underlying goal on this forum.

I am a registered democrat, but not very happy at the moment. Seems we are under the rule of a bunch of Kennedy's. You know, the guy that got us involved in Vietnam and tripled military spending... oh and placed a fear embargo against Cuba. Not all democrats are good. Many suck.
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Old 06-16-2011, 04:57 PM
 
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I think you're giving Onorato and Ravenstahl to easy of pass.
Luke is way too busy looking for his next piece of a$$ to be concerned with such trivial matters as these concerning the city...
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Old 06-16-2011, 04:59 PM
 
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It is bad to tow the party lines blindly as it done so often on both sides. Right now Obama actually is breaking the constitution be not going through congress and waging war on Libya. Are we now redefining the term war? If a country drops a bomb on us is that an act of war? Seems it isn't these days.
Shhhh.... its only a humanitarian mission to protect innocent civilians, nothing to see there, move along, move along...
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Old 06-16-2011, 05:08 PM
 
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Here are some local elected officials who might have some pull with Corbett, or who are otherwise directly involved in this issue:

U.S. Rep Tim Murphy
State Sens. Jane Orie, John Pippy, Elder Vogel
State Reps. Mike Turzai, Randy Vulakovich, John Maher, Mark Mustio, Rick Saccone

I am sure I am missing some, but if one or more of those people represent you and you care about public transit in SWPA, I would urge you to contact them and to make your feelings about state funding for public transit clear.

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Old 06-17-2011, 02:20 AM
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I understand this is an important and emotionally charged issue for some of you, but before a fight breaks out (a fight over politicians if I might add, you really want to fight over the lowest form of life ?) I'd like to ask you all to calm down a bit.
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Old 06-17-2011, 04:45 AM
 
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Perhaps some day PAT's failure will trigger a well regulated competition of multiple transportation companies which would be able to successfully compete with other means of transportation for their fair share of ridership. Even if this means that they would require some initial subsidies to get started. In my lifetime I have seen cases when most of public transportation was provided by several smaller bus companies to the point when the official transit authority pretty much dissolved. The service was extremely efficient and affordable. I could only dream that we had something like that in Pittsburgh.
And amazing Pittsburgh will be the ONLY city in the entire United States of America where private companies are able to turn a profit with mass transportation! Sure, the idea didn't work in ANY American city circa 1920, 1930, 1940, 1950, 1960, 1970, 1980, 1990, 2000 or 2010; the idea didn't work in Los Angeles, New Orleans, Chicago, Dallas, Houston, San Antonio, Detroit, Miami, Washington, Seattle, or New York, but NOW is the time and PITTSBURGH is the place!
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Old 06-17-2011, 05:01 AM
 
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These Local Politicians tend to make Pittsburgh the City of Excuses. They have an excuse for anything. It was not Onorato's job to fund PAT by creating new taxes; it was Onorato's job to fund PAT by increasing the existing tax base or decrease it's funding. Onorato failed at increasing the existing tax base which - here - is done by increasing property values by making your county a more desirable place to live and do business. And he, like Ravenstahl, has a litany of excuses.

Cities that grow don't do so by luck. They don't even do so by geography anymore. In those cities, when times get tough, the citizens don't tolerate the local Politicians mouthing excuses - 'There's too many non-profits' 'No one that works here lives here' 'We lost a significant part of our job base' 'Our pension obligations are killing us' - they demand that their local Politicians find solutions instead. Ours just whine, create new taxes, increase old taxes, lose residents, lose tax money, and repeat the cycle.
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Old 06-17-2011, 05:35 AM
 
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And amazing Pittsburgh will be the ONLY city in the entire United States of America where private companies are able to turn a profit with mass transportation! Sure, the idea didn't work in ANY American city circa 1920, 1930, 1940, 1950, 1960, 1970, 1980, 1990, 2000 or 2010; the idea didn't work in Los Angeles, New Orleans, Chicago, Dallas, Houston, San Antonio, Detroit, Miami, Washington, Seattle, or New York, but NOW is the time and PITTSBURGH is the place!
You just might be right!

Despite low ridership, Lenzner confident Marshall, Franklin Park lines will be OK
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