08-08-2011, 01:53 PM
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I think they need to keep the under .500 thing going for an even 20 years. It is a nice round number and will look better in the record books that will be there for centuries or possibly till the end of time. What is really cool about the record it isn't just a baseball recored, it is a sports record. That is pretty impressive.
08-08-2011, 01:59 PM
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I think they need to keep the under .500 thing going for an even 20 years. It is a nice round number and will look better in the record books that will be there for centuries or possibly till the end of time. What is really cool about the record it isn't just a baseball recored, it is a sports record. That is pretty impressive.
It is impressive in a pathetic kind of way. Furthermore, it is even more troubling in a great city like Pittsburgh with such loyal fans. This also might be the eleventh straight losing season at PNC Park, which was supposed to be the saviour for a small market like Pittsburgh.
The Pirates are averaging over 25,000 fans per game. That is very impressive for a smaller market like Pittsburgh, especially with a franchise that has had 18 losing seasons in a row. That number was achieved with a very small season ticket holder base. They are 19th in the league in attendance, but they were 27th out 30 teams by the end of May. They were continuously selling out that stadium and drawing well even on weekdays. Had they stayed in the pennant race, they could have gotten in the top 12 or 13 teams in attendance with around 30,000 per game. That would be some accomplisment. I expect those lofty numbers to die down and the average attendance to finish around 22,000 or so once September is complete. That would put the Pirates at around 23 or 24 out of 30 teams in the league. It just goes to show what can happen on the North Shore if the Buccos start winning.
http://espn.go.com/mlb/attendance
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08-08-2011, 02:02 PM
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It is impressive in a pathetic kind of way. Furthermore, it is even more troubling in a great city like Pittsburgh with such loyal fans. This also might be the eleventh straight losing season at PNC Park, which was supposed to be the saviour for a small market like Pittsburgh.
It is a shame. The Pirates are one of the oldest teams with such a rich history. Too bad the owners don't have pride, they are just milking the team. Oh well, we still have the Pens and the Steelers.
08-08-2011, 02:18 PM
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It is a shame. The Pirates are one of the oldest teams with such a rich history. Too bad the owners don't have pride, they are just milking the team. Oh well, we still have the Pens and the Steelers.
While the Pirates were at the top of the standings, I was kind of hoping that the NFL lockout would continue, so Yinzer Steeler fans would be forced to pay attention to the Buccos.
Note: I know not all Steeler fans are Yinzers. I am a huge Steeler fan myself. I was just making a point. Yes, you can be a fan of all Pittburgh sport teams. There. I said it for you.
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08-08-2011, 02:23 PM
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Their season seemed to "jump the shark" on that one call at the plate in Atlanta.
it does seem that way. heck, they even tried to bolster the roster with lee and ludwick but the pitching just crapped out, all of a sudden and all together. jose reyes to the pirates next year?
08-08-2011, 08:00 PM
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Hang in there Bucs faithful, you've got a promising team and will face a struggling Giants team and maybe things will turn around
08-08-2011, 09:11 PM
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Hang in there Bucs faithful, you've got a promising team and will face a struggling Giants team and maybe things will turn around
As long as we are in a super weak division, we can do okay. Maybe next year we will get to the .500 mark, or make it 20 years and then we will be .500. We need a weaker division. Oh yeah, we are in the worst division already. lol
08-09-2011, 07:31 AM
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for a night anyway, things went according to plan
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[LEFT]Charlie Morton harnessed the same effectiveness he had when he pitched seven scoreless innings against the Chicago Cubs Wednesday. He pitched eight scoreless innings and allowed six hits and three walks, striking out four...[LEFT]The Pirates struck out three times in the first inning, but also scored twice. Garrett Jones doubled on the first pitch of the at-bat. Neil Walker doubled, also on the first pitch, and scored Jones. Ryan Ludwick's single scored Walker to give the Pirates a 2-0 lead...[LEFT]Jones singled in the fifth, his third hit of the game, and stole second. He scored on Ludwick's RBI single and put the Pirates ahead 4-0. Ludwick went 2 for 3 with two RBIs in the game, and Derrek Lee, the other new addition, went 1 for 4 with a triple . He missed four consecutive games due to a left hand contusion he received when he got hit by a pitch but started at first base Monday.
Pirates' skid ends at 10 with 5-0 win [/LEFT]
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I really don't blame the owners. It really is just the economics of baseball. At least we are finally spending money on the draft. This is the really the only way we are ever going to improve. At some point though we have to draft a bat. Maybe in a few years after we draft a few more pitchers we can get around to drafting a bat.
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I really don't blame the owners. It really is just the economics of baseball. At least we are finally spending money on the draft. This is the really the only way we are ever going to improve. At some point though we have to draft a bat. Maybe in a few years after we draft a few more pitchers we can get around to drafting a bat.
I don't know if it's that simple. St Louis averages 38k fans a game and the metro isn't that much larger. in fact, as we've seen this year, the pirates can draw more fans if they play well (unlike, say, tampa or miami who can't draw no matter how they play). I don't know how they'll finish but the pirates are averaging 25k and are out of the bottom 10 in attendance (I also think attendance would get a boost if they were in the NL east). if the pirates put together a decent team, they'd probably pull decent numbers. furthermore, this year, the team was a buyer, bringing in lee and ludwick. it hasn't worked (for reasons not entirely the fault of those players), but it shouldn't be overlooked that the owners actually went out and tried to improve the team. so it seems that if the play well and people show up, the owners are willing to support the team
also of interest
http://thebiglead.com/index.php/2011...t-spend-money/ though if you look at percent of capacity, boston jumps to #2 and the yanks fall to #7, the giants move up to 3 (the pirates move up from 19 to 16)
http://espn.go.com/mlb/attendance/_/sort/homePct
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People in Group quarters - Other workers' dormitories (%)
People in Group quarters - Crews of maritime vessels (%)
People in Group quarters - Other nonhousehold living situations (%)
People in Group quarters - Other noninstitutional group quarters (%)
Residents speaking English at home (%)
Residents speaking English at home - Born in the United States (%)
Residents speaking English at home - Native, born elsewhere (%)
Residents speaking English at home - Foreign born (%)
Residents speaking Spanish at home (%)
Residents speaking Spanish at home - Born in the United States (%)
Residents speaking Spanish at home - Native, born elsewhere (%)
Residents speaking Spanish at home - Foreign born (%)
Residents speaking other language at home (%)
Residents speaking other language at home - Born in the United States (%)
Residents speaking other language at home - Native, born elsewhere (%)
Residents speaking other language at home - Foreign born (%)
Class of Workers - Employee of private company (%)
Class of Workers - Self-employed in own incorporated business (%)
Class of Workers - Private not-for-profit wage and salary workers (%)
Class of Workers - Local government workers (%)
Class of Workers - State government workers (%)
Class of Workers - Federal government workers (%)
Class of Workers - Self-employed workers in own not incorporated business and Unpaid family workers (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Utility gas (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Bottled, tank, or LP gas (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Electricity (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Fuel oil, kerosene, etc. (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Coal or coke (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Wood (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Solar energy (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Other fuel (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - No fuel used (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Utility gas (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Bottled, tank, or LP gas (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Electricity (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Fuel oil, kerosene, etc. (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Coal or coke (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Wood (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Solar energy (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Other fuel (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - No fuel used (%)
Armed forces status - In Armed Forces (%)
Armed forces status - Civilian (%)
Armed forces status - Civilian - Veteran (%)
Armed forces status - Civilian - Nonveteran (%)
Fatal accidents locations in years 2005-2021
Fatal accidents locations in 2005
Fatal accidents locations in 2006
Fatal accidents locations in 2007
Fatal accidents locations in 2008
Fatal accidents locations in 2009
Fatal accidents locations in 2010
Fatal accidents locations in 2011
Fatal accidents locations in 2012
Fatal accidents locations in 2013
Fatal accidents locations in 2014
Fatal accidents locations in 2015
Fatal accidents locations in 2016
Fatal accidents locations in 2017
Fatal accidents locations in 2018
Fatal accidents locations in 2019
Fatal accidents locations in 2020
Fatal accidents locations in 2021
Alcohol use - People drinking some alcohol every month (%)
Alcohol use - People not drinking at all (%)
Alcohol use - Average days/month drinking alcohol
Alcohol use - Average drinks/week
Alcohol use - Average days/year people drink much
Audiometry - Average condition of hearing (%)
Audiometry - People that can hear a whisper from across a quiet room (%)
Audiometry - People that can hear normal voice from across a quiet room (%)
Audiometry - Ears ringing, roaring, buzzing (%)
Audiometry - Had a job exposure to loud noise (%)
Audiometry - Had off-work exposure to loud noise (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Has high blood pressure (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Checking blood pressure at home (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Frequently checking blood cholesterol (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Has high cholesterol level (%)
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on food at supermarket/grocery store
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on food at other stores
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on eating out
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on carryout/delivered foods
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on food at supermarket/grocery store (%)
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on food at other stores (%)
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on eating out (%)
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on carryout/delivered foods (%)
Current Health Status - General health condition (%)
Current Health Status - Blood donors (%)
Current Health Status - Has blood ever tested for HIV virus (%)
Current Health Status - Left-handed people (%)
Dermatology - People using sunscreen (%)
Diabetes - Diabetics (%)
Diabetes - Had a blood test for high blood sugar (%)
Diabetes - People taking insulin (%)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Diet health (%)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Milk product consumption (# of products/month)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Meals not home prepared (#/week)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Meals from fast food or pizza place (#/week)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Ready-to-eat foods (#/month)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Frozen meals/pizza (#/month)
Drug Use - People that ever used marijuana or hashish (%)
Drug Use - Ever used hard drugs (%)
Drug Use - Ever used any form of cocaine (%)
Drug Use - Ever used heroin (%)
Drug Use - Ever used methamphetamine (%)
Health Insurance - People covered by health insurance (%)
Kidney Conditions-Urology - Avg. # of times urinating at night
Medical Conditions - People with asthma (%)
Medical Conditions - People with anemia (%)
Medical Conditions - People with psoriasis (%)
Medical Conditions - People with overweight (%)
Medical Conditions - Elderly people having difficulties in thinking or remembering (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever received blood transfusion (%)
Medical Conditions - People having trouble seeing even with glass/contacts (%)
Medical Conditions - People with arthritis (%)
Medical Conditions - People with gout (%)
Medical Conditions - People with congestive heart failure (%)
Medical Conditions - People with coronary heart disease (%)
Medical Conditions - People with angina pectoris (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever had heart attack (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever had stroke (%)
Medical Conditions - People with emphysema (%)
Medical Conditions - People with thyroid problem (%)
Medical Conditions - People with chronic bronchitis (%)
Medical Conditions - People with any liver condition (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever had cancer or malignancy (%)
Mental Health - People who have little interest in doing things (%)
Mental Health - People feeling down, depressed, or hopeless (%)
Mental Health - People who have trouble sleeping or sleeping too much (%)
Mental Health - People feeling tired or having little energy (%)
Mental Health - People with poor appetite or overeating (%)
Mental Health - People feeling bad about themself (%)
Mental Health - People who have trouble concentrating on things (%)
Mental Health - People moving or speaking slowly or too fast (%)
Mental Health - People having thoughts they would be better off dead (%)
Oral Health - Average years since last visit a dentist
Oral Health - People embarrassed because of mouth (%)
Oral Health - People with gum disease (%)
Oral Health - General health of teeth and gums (%)
Oral Health - Average days a week using dental floss/device
Oral Health - Average days a week using mouthwash for dental problem
Oral Health - Average number of teeth
Pesticide Use - Households using pesticides to control insects (%)
Pesticide Use - Households using pesticides to kill weeds (%)
Physical Activity - People doing vigorous-intensity work activities (%)
Physical Activity - People doing moderate-intensity work activities (%)
Physical Activity - People walking or bicycling (%)
Physical Activity - People doing vigorous-intensity recreational activities (%)
Physical Activity - People doing moderate-intensity recreational activities (%)
Physical Activity - Average hours a day doing sedentary activities
Physical Activity - Average hours a day watching TV or videos
Physical Activity - Average hours a day using computer
Physical Functioning - People having limitations keeping them from working (%)
Physical Functioning - People limited in amount of work they can do (%)
Physical Functioning - People that need special equipment to walk (%)
Physical Functioning - People experiencing confusion/memory problems (%)
Physical Functioning - People requiring special healthcare equipment (%)
Prescription Medications - Average number of prescription medicines taking
Preventive Aspirin Use - Adults 40+ taking low-dose aspirin (%)
Reproductive Health - Vaginal deliveries (%)
Reproductive Health - Cesarean deliveries (%)
Reproductive Health - Deliveries resulted in a live birth (%)
Reproductive Health - Pregnancies resulted in a delivery (%)
Reproductive Health - Women breastfeeding newborns (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that had a hysterectomy (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that had both ovaries removed (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that have ever taken birth control pills (%)
Reproductive Health - Women taking birth control pills (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that have ever used Depo-Provera or injectables (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that have ever used female hormones (%)
Sexual Behavior - People 18+ that ever had sex (vaginal, anal, or oral) (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever had vaginal sex with a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever performed oral sex on a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever had anal sex with a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever had any sex with a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever had vaginal sex with a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever performed oral sex on a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever had anal sex with a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever had any kind of sex with a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Average age people first had sex
Sexual Behavior - Average number of female sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of female vaginal sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average age people first performed oral sex on a woman (18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of woman performed oral sex on in lifetime (18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male anal sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average age people first performed oral sex on a man (18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male oral sex partners in lifetime (18+)
Sexual Behavior - People using protection when performing oral sex (%)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of times people have vaginal or anal sex a year
Sexual Behavior - People having sex without condom (%)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male sex partners in lifetime (females 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male vaginal sex partners in lifetime (females 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of female sex partners in lifetime (females 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Circumcised males 18+ (%)
Sleep Disorders - Average hours sleeping at night
Sleep Disorders - People that has trouble sleeping (%)
Smoking-Cigarette Use - People smoking cigarettes (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ having problems with smell (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ having problems with taste (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had wisdom teeth removed (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had tonsils teeth removed (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had a loss of consciousness because of a head injury (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had a broken nose or other serious injury to face or skull (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had two or more sinus infections (%)
Weight - Average height (inches)
Weight - Average weight (pounds)
Weight - Average BMI
Weight - People that are obese (%)
Weight - People that ever were obese (%)
Weight - People trying to lose weight (%)
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