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Old 07-07-2011, 06:34 AM
 
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As predicted, having exhausted its possibilities through the City's historic designation process, Preservation Pittsburgh is now trying to save the Arena with a federal lawsuit:

Civic Arena advocates continue fight, file lawsuit

The legal issues are complicated enough that you never know what might happen, but my sense is that they are facing pretty long odds with respect to the eventual outcome. But as a delaying tactic, this might work.
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Old 07-07-2011, 06:46 AM
 
Location: Crafton, PA
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I don't understand what the purpose of this long, drawn out battle is, especially when it is clearly a losing one? The only thing they've done successfully is waste taxpayer money, even more now with this lawsuit. I have yet to hear one decent re-use proposal from these groups.
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Old 07-07-2011, 07:17 AM
 
Location: Virginia
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I don't understand what the purpose of this long, drawn out battle is, especially when it is clearly a losing one?
To pay attorneys lots of $$$$$.
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Old 07-07-2011, 08:23 AM
 
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As cited in the article:

"The Federal Highway Administration, according to the complaint, hasn't fulfilled its legal mandate to minimize harm to historic structures."

I don't really understand how the term 'historic' applies to a building built in the '60s
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Old 07-07-2011, 09:06 PM
 
Location: Polish Hill, Pittsburgh, PA
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I don't really understand how the term 'historic' applies to a building built in the '60s
Ask this on the NoVA sub-forum. I did, and I was "owned".
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Old 07-08-2011, 06:24 AM
 
Location: Virginia
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Ask this on the NoVA sub-forum. I did, and I was "owned".
Aww, no need to feel "owned". You just asked a simple question and received a simple answer.

The answer, in a nutshell, is that something does not have to be old to have historic significance. Just like Apollo 11 has historic significance even though it, too, was built in the 1960s.

I'm not sure how that applies to the arena, however. Was the building part of a historic event? Does it represent an architectural "first"? It'll be interesting to see what arguments come up in this lawsuit.

For those who might be interested, other reasons why a building can receive a historic designation are listed in this thread:

Why is Reston's Lake Anne a "Historic District?"
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Old 07-07-2011, 08:57 AM
 
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I have yet to hear one decent re-use proposal from these groups.
We could use it as an actual arena. Fill the rink with sand, select a variety of public enemies (bus drivers, teachers, Poplawski, UPMC executives, etc.) and ship over the lions from the Zoo. Lucius Maximus, our bacchanalian praetor urbanus, could have a toga party.

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Old 07-07-2011, 09:10 AM
 
Location: Virginia
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We could use it as an actual arena. Fill the rink with sand, select a variety of public enemies (bus drivers, teachers, Poplawski, UPMC executives, etc.) and ship over the lions from the Zoo. Lucius Maximus, our bacchanalian praetor urbanus, could have a toga party.
LOL, or how about a monster truck rally with a Pittsburghian twist--cars jockeying for parking spaces while team members race to put chairs in the space? Monster truck vs. parking space chair--that would be fun to watch!
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Old 07-07-2011, 09:13 AM
 
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LOL, or how about a monster truck rally with a Pittsburghian twist--cars jockeying for parking spaces while team members race to put chairs in the space? Monster truck vs. parking space chair--that would be fun to watch!
LOL - excellent idea! But I'm fine with anything, as long as it involves sand, blood and at least as much public nudity as that Spartacus series.
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Old 07-07-2011, 11:38 AM
 
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We could use it as an actual arena. Fill the rink with sand, select a variety of public enemies (bus drivers, teachers, Poplawski, UPMC executives, etc.) and ship over the lions from the Zoo. Lucius Maximus, our bacchanalian praetor urbanus, could have a toga party.
I really hope you are kidding. Teachers - a public enemy????
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