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Old 08-01-2011, 01:53 PM
 
Location: California
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Thank you all for your time and wonderful information, and to Alice for the thread.

I did look at several of the places mentioned. Cumberland had a few interesting homes for sale (even found one with $8 prop. tax) but according to the crime stats, their rates are higher than the state's. Casinos do bring in money but they aslo add a crime element so I hope Cumberland knows what it is wishing for.

Ligoner also had some great homes for sale and looks very nice. I have yet to look at Greensburg and Franklin as it is difficult to focus after watching the stock market this past week. Hopefully, I'll be able to hang on to my $2 this week.

By the way, are any of these towns have any known flooding issues?

I'll continue to look at the towns mentioned in the next day or two. I really do appreciate your recommendations.
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Old 08-01-2011, 06:57 PM
 
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Default New Wilmington

A very quaint all american type of town with Westminster College. Some very nice farm properties as well as some million dollar estates can be found in this town. Country farm markets, a very good trout stream and fall saturday small college football are some of the typical activities here. Very good speakers, concerts and activities are brought in by the college and most are open to the local public.
Generally about a 65 min drive to downtown Pittsburgh and the Airport minus major traffic issues. About 30 minutes into Youngstown with New Castle even closer. Check out New Wilmington !
Located a few miles east of route 60, New Wilmington is nestled in a picturesque countryside where both the Old and New Worlds, the past and the present, comingle. New Wilmington was established in 1790's and became a borough in 1873. The Tavern Inn, located in the heart of the village, was once part of the Underground Railroad during the Civil War. The Old Order Amish, local residents, family-owned businesses and Westminster College students also call New Wilmington home. You get a unique sense of agriculture with education here.
Several restaurants as well as many craft, antique and specialty shops are located in New Wilmington. Isaly's Restaurant, one of the last remaining in the country, is located along one the hamlet's quiet streets. There are also several bed and breakfasts situated in the community.
Hitching and parking are free in New Wilmington! And the heavy duty snow belt is still due north of this area.

New Wilmington Area Chamber of Commerce
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Westminster College: leading liberal arts college, New Wilmington, PA
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Old 08-04-2011, 11:27 AM
 
Location: California
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A very quaint all american type of town with Westminster College. Some very nice farm properties as well as some million dollar estates can be found in this town. Country farm markets, a very good trout stream and fall saturday small college football are some of the typical activities here. Very good speakers, concerts and activities are brought in by the college and most are open to the local public.
Generally about a 65 min drive to downtown Pittsburgh and the Airport minus major traffic issues. About 30 minutes into Youngstown with New Castle even closer. Check out New Wilmington !
Located a few miles east of route 60, New Wilmington is nestled in a picturesque countryside where both the Old and New Worlds, the past and the present, comingle. New Wilmington was established in 1790's and became a borough in 1873. The Tavern Inn, located in the heart of the village, was once part of the Underground Railroad during the Civil War. The Old Order Amish, local residents, family-owned businesses and Westminster College students also call New Wilmington home. You get a unique sense of agriculture with education here.
Several restaurants as well as many craft, antique and specialty shops are located in New Wilmington. Isaly's Restaurant, one of the last remaining in the country, is located along one the hamlet's quiet streets. There are also several bed and breakfasts situated in the community.
Hitching and parking are free in New Wilmington! And the heavy duty snow belt is still due north of this area.

New Wilmington Area Chamber of Commerce
New Wilmington Borough - Pic Rotator (http://www.nwboronet.com/pic-rotator/ - broken link)
Westminster College: leading liberal arts college, New Wilmington, PA
Hey, save a park seat for me. This looks great and what a wonderful community spirit! I want to spend more time looking at the real estate and college to see whether they offer classes for those of us in need of brain stimulation. Thank you for th heads up.... now if only the stock market will go up today!
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Old 08-04-2011, 03:34 PM
 
Location: North Beach, MD on the Chesapeake
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Thank you all for your time and wonderful information, and to Alice for the thread.

I did look at several of the places mentioned. Cumberland had a few interesting homes for sale (even found one with $8 prop. tax) but according to the crime stats, their rates are higher than the state's. Casinos do bring in money but they aslo add a crime element so I hope Cumberland knows what it is wishing for.

Ligoner also had some great homes for sale and looks very nice. I have yet to look at Greensburg and Franklin as it is difficult to focus after watching the stock market this past week. Hopefully, I'll be able to hang on to my $2 this week.

By the way, are any of these towns have any known flooding issues?

I'll continue to look at the towns mentioned in the next day or two. I really do appreciate your recommendations.
Cumberlland has no say over a casino at Deep Creek, that's a State of MD decision.

Now to PA, there's been a lot of chatter about a "snow belt". Well, ok. Keep in mind that anywhere west of the Alleghenies is going to get snow, whether lake effect or just plain snow from the systems out of Canada that come east. For lake effect it's actually better when it's cold enough to freeze the Great Lakes as the systems then can't pick up moisture.

As you go closer to Altoona/Johnstown you will get more snow than a bit further west since the clouds drop their snow load as they rise over the mountains.

Some winters are milder than others from year to year, that's weather.

East of Altoona/Johnstown towards Harrisburg/Carlisle you have relatively less snow but, as I mentioned, that area sometimes gets hammered by the storms coming out of the south that hit the cold air. That's when this area gets naile, too.

Take a look at a map, a lot of the areas that have been recommended are in an area that gets fair amounts of snow.
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Old 08-04-2011, 07:58 PM
 
Location: California
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Cumberlland has no say over a casino at Deep Creek, that's a State of MD decision.

Now to PA, there's been a lot of chatter about a "snow belt". Well, ok. Keep in mind that anywhere west of the Alleghenies is going to get snow, whether lake effect or just plain snow from the systems out of Canada that come east. For lake effect it's actually better when it's cold enough to freeze the Great Lakes as the systems then can't pick up moisture.

As you go closer to Altoona/Johnstown you will get more snow than a bit further west since the clouds drop their snow load as they rise over the mountains.

Some winters are milder than others from year to year, that's weather.

East of Altoona/Johnstown towards Harrisburg/Carlisle you have relatively less snow but, as I mentioned, that area sometimes gets hammered by the storms coming out of the south that hit the cold air. That's when this area gets naile, too.

Take a look at a map, a lot of the areas that have been recommended are in an area that gets fair amounts of snow.
I know some people only see the money generated by the casinos but in CA they have also created other problems. I hope your politicians are wise people.

I do volunteer work with a man here who flies home to Indiana, PA to buy farm properties at least twice a year. He says the landowners are putting in gas wells for income and free gas, but I'm not clear whether that is fracking or not.

Winter on Lake Erie! Remember it well. We used to go for midnight walks on the frozen beach in January just to enjoy the snow falling or moon sparking off the ice but I was in my early 20's then. Ohio is pretty flat compared to PA which is why I too have questions about the snow storm patterns. When I look at the USDA Plant Hardiness Zone Map I can see how it is consistent with what you stated.

I looked at Johnstown some time ago and there seemed to be a huge number of homes for sale. They looked great; nice brick with actual yards, but in need of updating in many cases. I don't recall the quality of life issues at this time.

Thank you for your time. I really can't wait for my husband (68) to retire so we can have a forever home for the duration. Now, if only the stock market will cooperate!
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Old 08-04-2011, 08:09 PM
 
Location: North Beach, MD on the Chesapeake
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Our politicians wise? Yeah. They're getting ready to authorize a bunch more sites this year when the ones they set up a couple years ago are having trouble getting off the ground.
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Old 08-05-2011, 08:05 AM
 
Location: Cumberland
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Cumberlland has no say over a casino at Deep Creek, that's a State of MD decision.

Now to PA, there's been a lot of chatter about a "snow belt". Well, ok. Keep in mind that anywhere west of the Alleghenies is going to get snow, whether lake effect or just plain snow from the systems out of Canada that come east. For lake effect it's actually better when it's cold enough to freeze the Great Lakes as the systems then can't pick up moisture.

As you go closer to Altoona/Johnstown you will get more snow than a bit further west since the clouds drop their snow load as they rise over the mountains.

Some winters are milder than others from year to year, that's weather.

East of Altoona/Johnstown towards Harrisburg/Carlisle you have relatively less snow but, as I mentioned, that area sometimes gets hammered by the storms coming out of the south that hit the cold air. That's when this area gets naile, too.

Take a look at a map, a lot of the areas that have been recommended are in an area that gets fair amounts of snow.
There are no casinos in Cumberland or at Deep Creek Lake. There is a proposal to put in slot machines only at Rocky Gap State Park/Lodge about 10 miles east of Cumberland, but no bidders so far.
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Old 08-05-2011, 08:17 AM
 
Location: North Beach, MD on the Chesapeake
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There are no casinos in Cumberland or at Deep Creek Lake. There is a proposal to put in slot machines only at Rocky Gap State Park/Lodge about 10 miles east of Cumberland, but no bidders so far.


I meant Rocky Gap, don't know why I said Deep Creek.
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Old 08-05-2011, 09:11 AM
 
Location: Cumberland
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I meant Rocky Gap, don't know why I said Deep Creek.
Well, they are both big bodies of water in the Maryland mountains. I am interested to see if the state can attract a buyer for the facility. The current state strategy is pretty bipolar - put forth all sort of gloom and doom PR about how the lodge is failing and going to disappear......then turn around and say what a great investment it would be for someone in the slot business.

The irony is that the Lodge has been able to pay its operating expenses for several years now with room sales and conference events. It is the horrible debt from its intial contruction that keeps it in the red. Of course, conference bookings this year are WAAY down thanks to the gloom and doom PR sent out by the state. Who wants to book a conference in a place the state is saying may close or be a slot parlor in 6 months?
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Old 08-05-2011, 12:04 PM
 
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One sleeper community could be Newport, PA, 17074, which is the closest community to the population center of PA as calculated in the 2000 Census. It has no traffic light, and it's in that eastern Ridge and Valley/Tiltrock area that's out of the (current) shale gas fracking region, shadowed from snows that come from the west, but a little bit removed from nor'easter storms and Northeast Corridor penumbra suburbanization. In town around the square are an art gallery, natural foods store, and upscale coffee shop/restaurant Espresso Yourself Cafe - two blocks away are Weis chain grocery, post office, and (small) gym. The schools are still in town too. One thing to watch is that about 40% of the Borough is within the 100-year floodplain which may complicate financing. Or give you an opportunity to buy large older homes for far less if self-financed.
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