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Unread 08-22-2011, 02:13 PM
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Location: Ohio
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There certainly is no range at this shop. The police station in Oakmont is three blocks away and they drive by there all day all the time because it is the route to the downtown area for them. The clientele probably is okay considering the location of the store. Just a bunch of testosterone junkies smoking cigars looking at guns. It is an interesting concept and it has been there for a while, so they must make enough money to be there. If the heat or a/c isn't shared, I would suspect the location is okay other than it is on the corner of two brick streets and will be a bit noisy.
You got to remember the type of people you have to be worried about aren't buying their guns from a gun shop/cigar bar, their buying them off the streets! Anyone who would patronise such a place are likely enthusiasts, or experienced, law abiding shooters. So, like another poster said, it would probly be MORE safe to live above a gun shop.

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Ya know, more than the nature of the downstairs business, I'd now be worried that anybody who cares to read this thread will now have a pretty easy time of figuring out where the OP's apartment may be...
Hmmm....... good thing he/she will be living above a gun shop then huh? lol

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Unread 08-22-2011, 03:03 PM
 
Location: Pittsburgh
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I think I'd be more concerned about the firearms. If there's an actual fire, wouldn't there be explosions?
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Unread 08-22-2011, 03:17 PM
 
Location: Park Place (East Side of Pgh)
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I think I'd be more concerned about the firearms. If there's an actual fire, wouldn't there be explosions?
I would also hope that person doesn't smoke or have a gas oven....
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Unread 08-22-2011, 05:45 PM
 
Location: Swissvale, PA
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I think I'd be more concerned about the firearms. If there's an actual fire, wouldn't there be explosions?
No, firearms are not explosive in any way. Now if you asking if the ammunition would explode, the answer would again be no, in an intense fire the ammunition would slowly "cook off", not explode.
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Unread 08-22-2011, 06:20 PM
 
Location: About 10 miles north of Pittsburgh International
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You got to remember the type of people you have to be worried about aren't buying their guns from a gun shop/cigar bar, their buying them off the streets!
Where do they go for their ammunition?
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Unread 08-22-2011, 06:37 PM
 
Location: Swissvale, PA
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Where do they go for their ammunition?

Other than an age requirement, there are no restrictions for buying ammunition.
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Unread 08-22-2011, 07:28 PM
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Where do they go for their ammunition?
I suppose you have a point there. Again though, criminals are far less likely to cause any trouble in a building where there are lawful, armed citizens. { atleast that would be my thought process if I were a criminal }
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Unread 08-23-2011, 06:44 AM
 
Location: FC
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Hmmm....... good thing he/she will be living above a gun shop then huh? lol
You are under some false assumption that living around guns is safer. It isn't. If someone wants to shoot someone, it doesn't matters if the person being shot has a gun. They just get shot in the back and the world keeps rotating. If a person is holding someone up on the streets and comes up behind you with a gun and has it at your back are you safer because you have a gun? If anything, you might be in a worse situation because the armed guy with a gun pointing at your back has the drop on you. He sees you are carrying and just doesn't want to take a chance and boom, dead.

Don't kid yourself. Whoever is the aggressor usually has the drop. Good luck with your false sense of security that you have a gun. Best case for you is you are in a group of people and can have a chance to pull your gun and protect yourself because the person robbing or whatever has too many people to keep an eye on. Not as easy as the movies make it out to be however.

Carrying a gun is mostly about testosterone and walking around pounding your chest with your buddies. Have you protected yourself with your gun? Did you really need it, if you had a reason to actually pull it? If you pull the gun, it is probably best to just shoot or you have no idea what you are in for.

Feel safer if you like, but most of the time carrying a gun means nothing if you are alone.
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Unread 08-23-2011, 10:53 AM
 
Location: Swissvale, PA
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You are under some false assumption that living around guns is safer. It isn't. If someone wants to shoot someone, it doesn't matters if the person being shot has a gun. They just get shot in the back and the world keeps rotating. If a person is holding someone up on the streets and comes up behind you with a gun and has it at your back are you safer because you have a gun? If anything, you might be in a worse situation because the armed guy with a gun pointing at your back has the drop on you. He sees you are carrying and just doesn't want to take a chance and boom, dead.

Don't kid yourself. Whoever is the aggressor usually has the drop. Good luck with your false sense of security that you have a gun. Best case for you is you are in a group of people and can have a chance to pull your gun and protect yourself because the person robbing or whatever has too many people to keep an eye on. Not as easy as the movies make it out to be however.
I read a study that included thousands of cases were people were victims of crime, the study broke the victims into three categories, those that resisted, those that didn't resist, and those that resisted using a firearm. The group that resisted using a firearm were injured substantially less often than the other two groups. The group that was injured most often, was the group that didn't resist. I'll see if I can find a link to the study.


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Carrying a gun is mostly about testosterone and walking around pounding your chest with your buddies. Have you protected yourself with your gun? Did you really need it, if you had a reason to actually pull it? If you pull the gun, it is probably best to just shoot or you have no idea what you are in for.

Feel safer if you like, but most of the time carrying a gun means nothing if you are alone.
Funny, I know many people that carry guns, these people are doctors, lawyers, accountants, plumbers and construction workers, none of them pound their chest. People from all walks of life carry guns, please don't lump them into some stereotypical group.

I also know a husband and wife that are alive today, because the husband carried a gun. Yes, people really do use guns to protect themselves and their families.
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Unread 08-23-2011, 04:28 PM
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You are under some false assumption that living around guns is safer. It isn't. If someone wants to shoot someone, it doesn't matters if the person being shot has a gun. They just get shot in the back and the world keeps rotating.
Well you see, this is when I would hope someone around me { you know, one of those chest-beatiung, testosterone-filled people you describe } would have a gun and use it on the criminal.

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If a person is holding someone up on the streets and comes up behind you with a gun and has it at your back are you safer because you have a gun?
I suppose that would depend on how willing the criminal is to use THEIR gun.

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Carrying a gun is mostly about testosterone and walking around pounding your chest with your buddies
What a ridiculous, un-intelligent, un-informed statement.

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Have you protected yourself with your gun?
Thanfuly ive never had to. In this world, the way it is today, I'm never more than a moment away from from my firearm though.

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If you pull the gun, it is probably best to just shoot or you have no idea what you are in for.
Something they would teach anyone in any CCW class would be to never pull your gun if you aren't willing to use it. Does that answer your question?
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Feel safer if you like, but most of the time carrying a gun means nothing if you are alone.
In some instances you are right. But, it all depends on the situation you are in.

Just today believe it or not, I heard a story about a women I knew. She and her children were at home alone. She was in her bedroom, the children in the living room when her son came running in to her yelling that someone was coming through the front door. By the time she was able to comprehend what exactly was going on, the scum was headed right for them in the bedroom. She promptly grabbed her handgun out of her night-stand, took a shot at the coward, missed and he ran off. Who knows what may have happened had she not been armed.
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