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Old 09-09-2011, 01:25 PM
 
Location: Saint Petersburg
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You Ron Paul haters are going to scare the OP away.

Please reassure her that you can still be friends IRL with someone who supports Ron Paul.
Actually, I think this thread is a perfect indication of what she can expect to find in Pittsburgh. Most people are probably moderate or moderate-left on most issues, most people (in the city anyway) will not be Paulites or anything similar, but at the same time, there won't be much name-calling, pushing and shoving, or wild fury about "those people". There will be some civil (and possibly interesting) discussion, everyone will learn a little something, and then we will agree to disagree and move on with life.

 
Old 09-09-2011, 01:26 PM
 
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Another decent thread turned to a political argument...it's always the same people who do it too. Do our mods do any real modding on these forums or what?
 
Old 09-09-2011, 01:27 PM
 
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I created a Ron Paul thread but got scolded for it and the thread was closed.
 
Old 09-09-2011, 01:29 PM
 
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For what it's worth. I never intended my comments to steer us away from the original topic.
 
Old 09-09-2011, 01:30 PM
 
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Old 09-09-2011, 01:35 PM
 
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For what it's worth. I never intended my comments to steer us away from the original topic.
OP mentions one thing political, 2nd poster comes on with his usual insecurity about opinions that are different than his, and the usual suspects feel the need to jump in too.

It's not your fault...some people just lack common courtesy and then it leads to 7 pages of bs with only a small handful of helpful posts for the original poster.
 
Old 09-09-2011, 01:37 PM
 
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HAAHA I ALWAYS love that so your mad about something on the internet thing! nice!
 
Old 09-09-2011, 01:40 PM
 
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brian th:

ron paul on epa:As with any federal agency, it is not authorized by the Constitution and is therefore not to be funded by your money. If you wish to fund a private organization, then that is your prerogative.

His way of dealing with pollution is to examine and respect property rights within the courts. That means that if someone pollutes on your property, you sue them. Private property ownership is always better maintained then public ownership. By recognizing in the courts that you can sue the government or a company that pollutes on your land will cause the polluters to be hurt by pollution instead of taxpayers. This will create incentive to eliminate pollution instead of just creating rhetoric and doing nothing about the problem.

The EPA stands to lose their jobs if they solve this problem so they are on a tight wire of having to make it seem like they are working to fight pollution but having every motivation for pollution to continue to be a problem.

civil rights act:Paul is only opposed to a small portion of the Civil Rights Act, not the parts about discrimination on public transportation or when using public facilities.

The portions that prohibit government race discrimination are appropriate. That's what Martin Luther King fought for.

But Title 7 in particular goes beyond that and denies to private individuals the right to make their own choices about who they associate with.

It also institutionalizes racism in that it essentially requires people to evaluate each other on the basis of race when making employment decisions.

It makes it more difficult to hire racial minorities because it increases the risk if an employee doesn't work out.
It is unconstitutional.
It invades property rights.
It is divisive.
It doesn't solve the problem of racial hostility. In fact, it makes the problem WORSE.
1. Laws do not deter racism.
2. You should not attempt to legislate morality.
3. What people do on their private property is not the concern of anyone else. If you were to not like that a restaurant refuses to serve blacks (or asians, hispanics, etc.), you eat at a different restaurant. Likely a restaurant the refuses service based on race would go out of business quickly.
. People are their own problem AND their own solution

Things are much better in the South because of the people on the ground. Not because of some jerk in Washington who decides what Rules we all should be playing by sorry that you think govt. forcing people changes things.

ron paul on gold standard : listen for yourself
Ron Paul after the Debate 6/5/2007 FreeMe.tv - YouTube

you haven't the slightest idea of what liberterians believe you sound like a msnbc talking head that wants to put there liberal box view on every situation!
 
Old 09-09-2011, 01:40 PM
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Location: Pittsburgh
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Originally Posted by WestLibertyAve View Post
OP mentions one thing political, 2nd poster comes on with his usual insecurity about opinions that are different than his, and the usual suspects feel the need to jump in too.

It's not your fault...some people just lack common courtesy and then it leads to 7 pages of bs with only a small handful of helpful posts for the original poster.
True. It isn't Pittsburgh style at all. If you come here people are very eager to assist. There is one big troll on here, but you are correct this thread is crap because of it. He won.
 
Old 09-09-2011, 01:41 PM
 
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now can we get back to helping the op?
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