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Yeah alot of people say y'all(ya-aww) in pittsburgh. I think it is a matter of what neighborhood you are from. I say y'all , all of my friends, and most of my family and we all lived in Pittsburgh our whole lives. It doesn't sound the way they say it in Texas though, LOL, that is almost like a totally different word. People who say y'all in pittsburgh say it short, kinda like how Chris Tucker was trying to teach Jackie Chan to say it in Rush Hour,lol. Texas is more of a dragged out southern version. In theory I would say it started a long time ago with the black community and slow spreading to all the cultures in Pittsburgh, It is slowly replacing yinz. But it doesn't matter Yinz or Y'all both are BAD!!! forms of english, ones that all of us in Pittsburgh need to try to eliminate from our vocabulary. Altough it is very hard.
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"yall stay tryna act like edgewood is the best place (YEAH ***** RITE) u feel me???" and several subsequent posts in standard English. I was merely attempting to isolate the first post by identifying it as the one posted in ebonics. And who ever said it was worse than Italian? |
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Hmmmmm.........well, Italian, French and German are actual languages, Dorian.
There's a difference between an actual language and a dialect. Ebonics is a dialect of American English the same way Southern American English is a dialect of American English. A dialect is not the PROPER form of the language in which it is derived. |
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I've done some research on Ebonics. "Yall" is Ebonics, not slang used by a majority of Pittsburgh's population.
Ebonics is derived from Southern American English--which explains "yall" being part of Ebonics. So, Dorian is right about the usage of "yall" depending on the neighborhood in Pittsburgh. But Dorian is still wrong about "yinz" being suburban. "Yinz" is more of a Southside type neighborhood word. |
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If it's your bag to be the Grammar Lady, Hopes, more power to you, but from a linguistic perspective "proper" English is as much a dialect as any other form of English. There was no "standard" English until the Victorians came along with their mania for class markers and Latinization. Many of our hoarier rules (like not ending a sentence with a preposition) come from Latin and are not actually features of English grammar at all. I've said it before and I'll say it again -- most people use several dialects for different situations and switch back and forth with great ease. Even a yinzer knows you don't *write* yinz.
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There's a stark difference between playing "Grammar Lady" and wishing people would at least make a token effort to write in such a way that people can understand you. Someone who writes an entire paragraph without one single period or types in "ebonics" (the equivalent of a 'Burgher actually typing out the word "yinz" only with entire sentences constructed that way) can rightfully expect their drivel to be called out. Nobody should have to read something three or four times to understand what the person is trying to say. In fact, I don't bother; if it looks like it was written by someone with the intellectual firepower of an 8-year-old, I skip right past it. I'm not in the deciphering business, and I'm certainly not going to take the time to give a thoughtful response to someone who can't be bothered to try to write coherently.
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I heard it the other day when I was getting lunch.
It was great. Now I truly feel like I live here. |
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Holy crap people, It's a high school kid, not your accountant.
OMG my BFF jill is lol imho this is what kids do |
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