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Old 12-08-2011, 05:11 AM
 
Location: Athens, GA (via Pittsburgh, PA)
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Arrow Pittsburgh MSA migration "churn" with other MSAs and μSAs (2009-2010)

To better understand these charts, migration "churn" is defined as the number of people moving into the Pittsburgh MSA from another MSA/μSA plus the number of people moving out of the Pittsburgh MSA to that same MSA/μSA.


Top 20 churns with all MSAs and μSAs
2,074 - New York
2,036 - Washington DC
2,021 - Philadelphia

1,549 - Youngstown
1,467 - New Castle
1,364 - Indiana
1,145 - Erie
961 - Cleveland

814 - Phoenix
800 - Chicago
777 - Miami
745 - Johnstown
743 - Los Angeles

728 - Weirton/Steubenville
727 - Tampa/St. Petersburg

720 - Columbus
706 - Baltimore

675 - Atlanta
625 - Boston
615 - Morgantown

612 - Harrisburg
608 - Charlotte
589 - Houston
522 - Dallas/Fort Worth
450 - Las Vegas

Top 20 churns with all MSAs of 1,000,000 or more population
2,074 - New York
2,036 - Washington DC
2,021 - Philadelphia

961 - Cleveland
814 - Phoenix
800 - Chicago
777 - Miami
743 - Los Angeles
727 - Tampa/St. Petersburg
720 - Columbus
706 - Baltimore

675 - Atlanta
625 - Boston
608 - Charlotte

589 - Houston
522 - Dallas/Fort Worth
450 - Las Vegas
448 - Detroit

414 - San Francisco/Oakland
307 - Raleigh

Top 10 churns with all MSAs of less than 1,000,000 population
1,549 - Youngstown
1,145 - Erie
745 - Johnstown

728 - Weirton/Steubenville
615 - Morgantown

612 - Harrisburg
419 - State College
383 - Akron/Canton
324 - York

273 - Cape Coral/Fort Myers

Top 10 churns with all MSAs in the Northeast
2,074 - New York
2,036 - Washington DC
2,021 - Philadelphia

1,145 - Erie
745 - Johnstown
706 - Baltimore

625 - Boston
615 - Morgantown

612 - Harrisburg
419 - State College

Top eight churns with all MSAs in the Midwest
1,549 - Youngstown
961 - Cleveland
800 - Chicago
720 - Columbus
448 - Detroit
383 - Akron/Canton

265 - Minneapolis/St. Paul
125 - Toledo

Top 10 churns with all MSAs in the South and West
814 - Phoenix
777 - Miami

743 - Los Angeles
727 - Tampa/St. Petersburg
675 - Atlanta
608 - Charlotte

589 - Houston
522 - Dallas/Fort Worth
450 - Las Vegas

414 - San Francisco/Oakland

Top 10 churns with all MSAs and μSAs in Pennsylvania
2,021 - Philadelphia
1,467 - New Castle
1,364 - Indiana
1,145 - Erie
745 - Johnstown
612 - Harrisburg
440 - Franklin/Oil City
419 - State College
324 - York
200 - Reading

Top five churns with all MSAs and μSAs in Ohio
1,549 - Youngstown
961 - Cleveland

728 - Weirton/Steubenville
393 - East Liverpool

383 - Akron/Canton

MSAs and μSAs with which Pittsburgh has a net inflow are shaded in BLUE. MSAs and μSAs with which Pittsburgh has a net outflow are shaded in RED. All numbers illustrate migration between 2009 and 2010.

Source: University of Pittsburgh Center for Social and Urban Research.
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Old 12-08-2011, 06:01 AM
 
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Seeing the traffic I buck in Breezewood on weekends it's not surprise about a net outflow to DC. I'm a bit surprised about a net inflow from Harrisburg, the Pittsburgh diaspora is well represented hereabouts so I wonder if that is a recent turnaround.
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Old 12-08-2011, 06:14 AM
 
Location: Pittsburgh
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It is a great time to move to DC if you think about it. Real estate is soft down that way and your return on investment would be most likely quite good compared to our region. Lots of people heading South still. Florida would be a great place to relocate to with that real estate market. Pennies on the dollar down that way and it is going to be great in 5-10 years. One of the bad things about our region is the constant pounding of taxes in relationship to low property values. In other words a percentage of your investment goes so hard to tax burden, there is no money in real estate here.
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Old 12-08-2011, 06:14 AM
 
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I'm surprised at the net outflow to Weirton/Steubenville and East Liverpool area. If it continues, maybe it will be considered Pittsburgh's newest suburb. Thanks for sharing Gnutella.
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Old 12-08-2011, 06:47 AM
 
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I'm surprised at the net outflow to Weirton/Steubenville and East Liverpool area. If it continues, maybe it will be considered Pittsburgh's newest suburb. Thanks for sharing Gnutella.
Exactly what I was thinking. Why the heck are people moving to Weirton?
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Old 12-08-2011, 06:53 AM
 
Location: Pittsburgh
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Exactly what I was thinking. Why the heck are people moving to Weirton?
Cheap living.
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Old 12-08-2011, 07:06 AM
 
Location: Pittsburgh area
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Yeah, probably not living right in Weirton so much as some new house built in the surrounding Weirton area. I was just noting yesterday the current-model Audi A4 in the garage with the WV plate. It was in the basement so this is not a day to day customer but someone with a lease. Definitely living over the border and commuting in to downtown every day. I suppose it could be a recent transplant who hasn't yet switched plates, but seems more likely they just live down there.
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Old 12-08-2011, 07:36 AM
 
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Cheap living.
Yeah. I'm from over in that area (Wintersville O) (so I suppose you could count me as a green +). I made the drive for a good while, and I know plenty of people who do the commute to the airport area; but still Weirton is the LAST place I think I'd consider. Greg42 might be right that it's probably somewhere along 22 on the way into town, but still.

I still think it's funny when I used to tell people I lived in OHIO. You'd think I had told them I lived in Turkmenistan or something. People don't realize that Steubenville is only like 40 miles from downtown.
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Old 12-08-2011, 08:23 AM
 
Location: Pittsburgh area
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I see cars with Ohio plates commuting in and out on I-279 and I-79. I don't know where they're going up that way, but it's somewhat farther to Ohio in that direction, even going right out the turnpike (which heading west is free but heading east is $4.30 at the border, so I suspect they wouldn't go on the turnpike in the morning!) Gotta be an hour commute at least. It's 20 miles about to Cranberry and then 28 miles to the border on the turnpike.
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Old 12-08-2011, 08:37 AM
 
Location: Pittsburgh, PA
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A few things:

1. I'm guessing the in-flow from Texas may be from the Marcellus Shale jobs, becuase I doubt any other city in the Northeast or Midwest has an inflow of residents from any large Texas city.

2. I still don't and never will understand the Northeast obsession with moving everywhere from DC to Charlotte. I've been to these areas a few times before and would not like to live in those areas. I also didn't think that many people moved between Pittsburgh and Morgantown yearly.

3. We're doing a good job at attracting people from smaller metro areas.

4. I'm surprised to see positive migration from Las Vegas and L.A. and I'm surprised the positive migration from the NYC metro area is as high as it is.
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