Pittsburgh Panera franchises accused of racial and gender discrimination (Liberty: unemployment rate, law)

[gg]

Curtis, you shop at Waterworks. You can't deny that most of the AA workers provide far superior customer service than most of their white counterparts there. That's been my experience at Waterworks at least. I have a hard time believing that all workers relegated to the back room are there for merely for having substandard skills, especially if only white workers are in the front. That's the tell tale sign---the separation between the back and the front---because qualified black do exist for the front line positions!

I have no idea what you are talking about. Firstly I don't pay any attention to such a thing. I rarely shop at the Waterworks and hate that place, but when I do, I don't think about what color a person is and are they giving me better service because they are some color/race/sex or whatever. Do people even think of such a thing? I can't tell you the percentage of black employees vs. white at the Waterworks, because it all blends together and is meaningless. Just people working in retail. Whatever! That is not the case at the Target in East Liberty. I would have to be blind not to see race was involved in hiring when it is that out of proportion. I never said ANYTHING about a black person not being qualified for any job. I said, A PERSON. That could be any person and there are some that should NOT work front of the house jobs. Plenty of white, black hispanics, indian and whatever NOT qualified and plenty that are qualified. I think everyone knows that. My point is obvious, all this has nothing to do with race. Not saying there are some managers that discriminate or whatever, but overall, I would have to say that is VERY rare! Lots of opportunity out there for everyone. There are also plenty of people looking for excuses. I am not buying that crap, so try selling it elsewhere.


Now if you run into a manager that obviously looks at race. Here is an idea. Go somewhere else. I wouldn't apply at that Target in East Liberty for example. I don't think they would hire me and if they did, I don't think I would be treated fairly. Are there places that might be like that against black people? Probably yes, but that isn't an entire company, that is a poor manager that is uneducated. We can't fix every problem, but at the end of the day we have had white presidents and now a black one. Probably will have a women one soon enough. They run the entire place and are elected. I think race and the sexist thing are becoming a excuses used like some crutch. Too much opportunity to worry about some loser manager that hires with race in mind. They exist and probably will always be around. Just go to a different place and move on.

[Hopes]

Originally Posted by youngabe

Or, instead of making more than likely incorrect assumptions about why the manager said what he said, it would help if we really knew why the manager told your son what he did. Your take on that scenario is so hyper-sensitive and twisted that SOMEHOW the white manager was racist. Seriously? My goodness.

Oh, I know for a FACT my son was telling the truth. My son has never been required by me to have a job. He never wanted for money either. He simply wanted to work and wanted to do it near school because it was convenient. So there is no reason whatsoever for him to come home telling me a fake story about why he couldn't get one. And he likes black people. He really does. That's why he was so offended by the manager's comment!

[youngabe]

Originally Posted by wpipkins

Do we? We coexist but we do not co mingle. This thread is an exellent example of this.

So an African American family living next to a Caucasian family and the two families becoming friends isn't co-mingling? Interracial relationships isn't an example of co-mingling? There are no longer "white" and "black" water fountains, everyone uses the same one.

I just don't see your point. You seem to view society from a very bleak view and focus on the smaller percentage of negative happenings. I choose to focus on the larger, positive picture.

[Hopes]

Originally Posted by youngabe

I choose to focus on the larger, positive picture.

Your posts on this subject don't sound very positive to me. You're spinning everything to one side, not seeing the other, can't find the middle.

[youngabe]

Originally Posted by Hopes

Oh, I know for a FACT my son was telling the truth. My son has never been required by me to have a job. He never wanted for money either. He simply wanted to work and wanted to do it near school because it was convenient. So there is no reason whatsoever for him to come home telling me a fake story about why he couldn't get one. And he likes black people. He really does. That's why he was so offended by the manager's comment!

I just don't see how it can be accurately assumed that the manager was referring to the color of his employees' skin as to the reason your son probably shouldn't work there. Maybe he meant in general, "You seem like a nice young guy, I'm sure you can find something a bit more suitable than Burger King."

[gg]

Originally Posted by Hopes

Oh, I know for a FACT my son was telling the truth. My son has never been required by me to have a job. He never wanted for money either. He simply wanted to work and wanted to do it near school because it was convenient. So there is no reason whatsoever for him to come home telling me a fake story about why he couldn't get one. And he likes black people. He really does. That's why he was so offended by the manager's comment!

Yes, I am sure it happened. It was some dumb manager that was an idiot. Does that mean it is 70% of the managers out there that focus on race? I hardly think so. Just look around at stores all over the place. TONS of all races everywhere. Don't focus on that one odd manager that is some uneducated person. Focus on the masses. The masses tell all we should put such things behind us and move forward, not use some excuse because someone look Chinese they will not be hired. Goodness, the US is such a melting pot it is hard to tell what is going on.

[youngabe]

Originally Posted by Hopes

Your posts on this subject don't sound very positive to me.

So me promoting a co-mingling society where everyone just lives together isn't positive? You're the one that somehow assumed the white manager at Burger King surely had to be a racist. I don't think my mind could have even concocted that thought without you bringing it up. People who focus on race so much are the ones that just continue to make it an issue. Without threads like this, I don't give it a thought. A bad person is a bad person to me. If a white person is doing wrong--they're doing a wrong. If a black person is doing wrong--they're doing wrong, simple as that.

[UKyank]

Originally Posted by Hopes

Oh, I know for a FACT my son was telling the truth. My son has never been required by me to have a job. He never wanted for money either. He simply wanted to work and wanted to do it near school because it was convenient. So there is no reason whatsoever for him to come home telling me a fake story about why he couldn't get one. And he likes black people. He really does. That's why he was so offended by the manager's comment!

I don't think youngabe was implying that your son was lying just that there could be many reasons the manager said what he said. Perhaps your son seemed overqualified, or he was much younger then who they hire, etc., etc., - to automatically label a manager a racist because something they said could somehow be construed as such without knowing any other facts is nothing more then hypothesizing in a negative light.

[Aqua Teen Carl]

Originally Posted by youngabe

If a white person is doing wrong--they're doing a wrong. If a black person is doing wrong--they're doing wrong, simple as that.

[TechieTransplant]

Originally Posted by Jrn14

I'm not making light of this story, but I just google newsed Panera Bread and the first four articles to come up are like.

Panera Bread Shares the Warmth and donates coats to homeless.

Panera Bread Makes donation to Make A Wish Foundation

Panera Bread honors military vets with A Free Meal.

Panera Bread supports breast cancer research.

They are a stand up corporate entity. If Casey Anthony can go free, Sam Covelli has nothing to worry about.