Occupy Pittsburgh is told to leave. (student loans, living, money)

[BrianTH]

Originally Posted by I_Like_Spam

The idea is that people will be caught unaware and be easier to catch by suprise and overwhelm at 3:30 a.m.

Which is precisely why it doesn't make sense to complain the site isn't tidy afterward.

[Debbie1125]

Originally Posted by h_curtis

I don't agree with the protesters in this case at all. Mellon was kind enough to let them stay on the private property. What thanks are they getting? Having to be forcefully removed? I think this kind of thing will work against them. If they left peacefully, it would be more dignified. They are now going to be forced out by police and rightfully so. The owners of the property have rights too.

We had the same situation here. Occupy Philly was given many chances to vacate Dilworth Plaza at city hall, as a construction project was due to start in mid-November. There was a total of 200 tents set up.

The mayor and officials were nice giving them every opportunity to leave on their own. Most did not. So in the middle of the night the police came and evicted them. 52 wound up being arrested. They left an unbelivable pile of trash and garbage around. It took the sanitation department hours to clean it up.

[Copanut]

Why don't those hippies go out and get a job.

[KingKrab]

Get a Jerb hippies!

[WINDCHIMES]

Well according them, the hippies, they cant find decent paying jobs and you know what? alot of people cant, why? cause companies are taking their money and business and going over seas and what is left is subway and burger king...if you have a good job, be thankful, your one of the lucky ones, I am one of them for now too, our ecomony is in very bad shape, things are getting worse, I guess its easy to critize when its not you, huhn?

on the other hand, maybe some are lazy, agreeded...I am sure there is a mix of that in there, but lets not call them all lazy and weird, they have a point you know.

[ctoocheck]

Originally Posted by h_curtis

I don't agree with the protesters in this case at all. Mellon was kind enough to let them stay on the private property. What thanks are they getting? Having to be forcefully removed? I think this kind of thing will work against them. If they left peacefully, it would be more dignified. They are now going to be forced out by police and rightfully so. The owners of the property have rights too.

Well, it's actually privately-owned public space, which is a sort of legal limbo... it was the same case with Zuccotti Park.

[shogun221]

While I sympathize with the Occupy movement's social equality aims, they lose points for implementation.

Camping out on a privately-owned space like Mellon Park was never a viable long-term plan. Sooner or later, BNY Mellon was going to tire of having damage to their property(even if unintentional), and the looming liability issues of protesters camping in sub-freezing temperatures. The "Occupy" aspect of the movement gained visibility early on through spectacle, but put them in line for confrontations with police and property owners before the movement was strong enough to stay solvent if dispersed. Occupy also has a problem with catering to every left-wing cause in the name of "inclusion" rather than crafting a streamlined message that could make the movement appeal to the center and center-left. This failure as left Occupy a fringe protest that mainstream America sometimes sympathizes with, rather than a social movement that can bear its torch all the way to Washington.

It's a shame, because a real discussion of the widening gap between the rich and everyone else needs to be a permanent part of our national conversation. What America needs is a movement that moves past PR, and has some interest in how to actually implement changes in government.

[WINDCHIMES]

Well I dont agree with them about wanting to socialize our country, I do agree that there are no real jobs anymore, I do agree they should have the right to protest, but not on someone elses property. I agree with some of them, not all of them, we cant just spread the wealth around and take from those who worked for things and give to peope who rather take hand outs...

[MeinGlanzendMotorrad]

Would you stay in the US, as a business owner, with ****heads like this as your employment base?

[Copanut]

I always question where the money comes from for these people to stay at these camps? I can't afford to take off time and not work, what the hell am I doing wrong?