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Old 01-06-2012, 12:14 PM
 
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Channel 11's Alan Jennings reported that police have reason to believe that

Wonder if they can be charged with accomplice to homicide?
If they can prove it. They might not know which bouncer.
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Old 01-06-2012, 01:07 PM
 
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And it seems like the gun toter may have had some pull on getting in unbeknownst to others;

Channel 11's Alan Jennings reported that police have reason to believe that Wonder if they can be charged with accomplice to homicide?

I wondered the same thing. Would the bouncer be considered an accomplice to murder?
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Old 01-06-2012, 01:15 PM
 
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I wondered the same thing. Would the bouncer be considered an accomplice to murder?
If they can identify and prove which bouncer took money and allowed them inside, there is no doubt in my mind that the DA's office would try him for murder. PA laws are clear about being guilty of murder if you are involved in illegal activity when a murder occurs, regardless of who commits the murder. Heck, someone could have died of a heart attack during this shooting and they'd be guilty of murder the person who died of a heart attack. Taking money to allow people to carry illegal guns into an establishment would qualify IMO.
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Old 01-06-2012, 01:50 PM
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If they can identify and prove which bouncer took money and allowed them inside, there is no doubt in my mind that the DA's office would try him for murder. PA laws are clear about being guilty of murder if you are involved in illegal activity when a murder occurs, regardless of who commits the murder. Heck, someone could have died of a heart attack during this shooting and they'd be guilty of murder the person who died of a heart attack. Taking money to allow people to carry illegal guns into an establishment would qualify IMO.
How the heck do you know. You have no idea about any of this. Yield to wpipkins, he knows the in's and out's of this stuff. Goodness, you are no attorney, nor do you know what charges could be file or laws that were broken. No one knows yet, but time will tell and hopefully this place goes bye, bye. There is no room for some place that has all that going on. I mean guns and booze on a poster.
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Old 01-06-2012, 02:46 PM
 
Location: East End of Pittsburgh
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How the heck do you know. You have no idea about any of this. Yield to wpipkins, he knows the in's and out's of this stuff. Goodness, you are no attorney, nor do you know what charges could be file or laws that were broken. No one knows yet, but time will tell and hopefully this place goes bye, bye. There is no room for some place that has all that going on. I mean guns and booze on a poster.
Hopes may be on the right track H_Curtis. There was an attempted robbery on the North Side a few years back. There was two robbers and one victim. One robber accidently shot the other robber to death during a tussle with the victim. The lone surviving robber was tried and convicted of first degree murder (thank God!)......
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Old 01-06-2012, 04:06 PM
 
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How the heck do you know. You have no idea about any of this. Yield to wpipkins, he knows the in's and out's of this stuff.
Huh? Are you really saying that wpipkins knows more about Pennsylvania murder laws because he's black? I can't believe you just said that!

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Goodness, you are no attorney, nor do you know what charges could be file or laws that were broken.
It's a hypothetical question:

If a bouncer takes a bribe to let someone in a club with a gun and people are murdered, could the bouncer be tried for murder?

One thing is for certain, I know more about this than you do.

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Hopes may be on the right track H_Curtis. There was an attempted robbery on the North Side a few years back. There was two robbers and one victim. One robber accidently shot the other robber to death during a tussle with the victim. The lone surviving robber was tried and convicted of first degree murder (thank God!)......
And John Edgar Wideman's brother Robert is still in prison for a 1978 life sentence second degree murder conviction for being a participant in a theft crime that resulted in someone dying even though he didn't commit the murder himself.

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Under Pennsylvania law, Wideman was given the same sentence as the shooter because, at the very least, he was a guilty bystander who participated in a crime leading to Morena's death.
Keeping Wideman in jail compounds tragedy

John Wideman wrote a book about it:

http://www.amazon.com/Brothers-Keepe.../dp/0679756949

Here is a link that helps explain conspiracy laws in PA using assult as an example:

New Developments in Pennsylvania Conspiracy Law | Criminal Defense, Divorce, and Civil Litigation
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