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Old 03-15-2012, 05:49 PM
 
Location: Center City
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Thank goodness it's not BP.
Actually, BP doesn't have the track record that Shell does in terms of safety or environmental protections.

The picture you showed is of an offshore oil platform, which is quite different from a refinery, btw. Not surprising you wouldn't appreciate the difference, however, given you felt the cracker plant was going to produce saltines:
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Yay! Nabisco's coming back!
Just messing with you
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Old 03-15-2012, 05:53 PM
 
Location: Pittsburgh, PA
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The zinc plant isn't closed yet but:

"It's also an unexpected turn for the Horsehead zinc smelter, the largest in the country. In September the company announced plans to shut the Potter smelter plant by 2013 and relocate to North Carolina, along with most of its 600 workers."

Also:

"Ali Alavi, a Horsehead spokesman, said the company would have to vacate the factory site by April 30, 2014, under the terms of the option agreement with Shell."

and

"But actual construction is still years away. The company said the next steps are environmental and design studies and further economic analysis, then permitting."

That doesn't sound like it's happening very quickly then....
It always bothers me to hear to these companies relocating and taking people with them for no reason.
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Old 03-15-2012, 06:54 PM
 
Location: Pittsburgh area
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It always bothers me to hear to these companies relocating and taking people with them for no reason.
Oh, I'll bet the reason if you dig back is that NC threw some money their way!
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Old 03-15-2012, 06:57 PM
 
Location: Pittsburgh, PA
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Oh, I'll bet the reason if you dig back is that NC threw some money their way!
Probably. No wonder there are so many issues in our country.
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Old 03-15-2012, 07:46 PM
 
Location: Pittsburgh area
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Here's a story from September about the plant moving, no details but it mentions "incentives" from down there: Horsehead Corp. moving operation to N.C. - Timesonline.com: News
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Old 03-15-2012, 08:25 PM
 
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Property values in the vicinity of the plant will probably plummet. As shown on the Gulf Coast - from Mobile to New Orleans through Beaumont, Port Arthur, Baytown, Houston, Texas City and all the way down to Corpus Christi - the property within a one or two mile radius of a chemical plant is worthless. New plants are built with a buffer zone of five miles. The corporate folk in Texas are probably laughing at the stupidity of Pennsylvanians.
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Old 03-15-2012, 08:57 PM
 
Location: About 10 miles north of Pittsburgh International
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If you look at the site on Google earth, on that side of the river, there's really already nothing within about a mile of the site, except 376 and woods. There's nothing but woods directly across the river either.

Add me to the list of people who are pleased with this news.
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Old 03-15-2012, 08:57 PM
 
Location: Pittsburgh area
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Property values in the vicinity of the plant will probably plummet. As shown on the Gulf Coast - from Mobile to New Orleans through Beaumont, Port Arthur, Baytown, Houston, Texas City and all the way down to Corpus Christi - the property within a one or two mile radius of a chemical plant is worthless. New plants are built with a buffer zone of five miles. The corporate folk in Texas are probably laughing at the stupidity of Pennsylvanians.
There's not a lot of residential within a mile I'd say (little to almost none I think, very industrial along the river there, both sides) but within 2 you're already hitting the western edge of Beaver for sure. Maybe that western edge really is only 1 mile. But then, the zinc smelting plant has already been there for decades, so I'm not sure if it's worse than that? It could be, I suppose.

Not that the previously existing plant automatically justifies putting a different one there, but it's not as if they're suddenly plunking down a plant where there was not one before, in the middle of a place where lots of people were living.
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Old 03-15-2012, 11:41 PM
 
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Here's a story from September about the plant moving, no details but it mentions "incentives" from down there: Horsehead Corp. moving operation to N.C. - Timesonline.com: News
My understanding was it had a lot to do with the flexibility of the labor laws and NC being a right to work state. Forced unionism is archaic and any heavy industry that can has moved its operations south.
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Old 03-16-2012, 06:47 AM
 
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Property values in the vicinity of the plant will probably plummet. As shown on the Gulf Coast - from Mobile to New Orleans through Beaumont, Port Arthur, Baytown, Houston, Texas City and all the way down to Corpus Christi - the property within a one or two mile radius of a chemical plant is worthless. New plants are built with a buffer zone of five miles. The corporate folk in Texas are probably laughing at the stupidity of Pennsylvanians.
Well, if anyone's there they're already next to a really nasty smelting plant facility.
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