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Unread 04-05-2012, 12:26 AM
 
Location: Athens, GA (via Pittsburgh, PA)
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Thumbs up Pittsburgh MSA is growing

This according to U.S. Census estimates for 2011. You need Microsoft Excel to access the information, but it can be found at the link under "Metro Areas" where it says "50 Largest: July 1, 2011."


Pittsburgh MSA

2010: 2,356,285
2011: 2,359,746
Numerical difference: +3,461
Percent difference: +0.1%

2020 extrapolation: 2,390,895
Numerical difference: +34,610
Percent difference: +1.5%


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Unread 04-05-2012, 12:34 AM
 
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My lifelong dream of a growing Metro Pittsburgh is finally coming true!

And the best part about this past year's growth... is that it is being led by growth in Allegheny County! I doubt there are very many examples of a major metro where a core county is growing, but most of its "suburban" counties are shrinking (Fayette, Armstrong, Beaver, Westmoreland).

I could talk about this for hours... but I should get to bed. I'll be back.
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Unread 04-05-2012, 01:20 AM
 
Location: Athens, GA (via Pittsburgh, PA)
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My lifelong dream of a growing Metro Pittsburgh is finally coming true!

And the best part about this past year's growth... is that it is being led by growth in Allegheny County! I doubt there are very many examples of a major metro where a core county is growing, but most of its "suburban" counties are shrinking (Fayette, Armstrong, Beaver, Westmoreland).

I could talk about this for hours... but I should get to bed. I'll be back.
According to the estimates, Allegheny County was +3,718 between 2010 and 2011, and the MSA was +3,461. That means the MSA outside of Allegheny County was -257. I made a prediction that Pittsburgh in 2020 could be a rare instance of a growing central city and county in a shrinking MSA, but apparently Allegheny County is growing fast enough to offset any shrinkage in the rest of the MSA.
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Unread 04-05-2012, 05:07 AM
 
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Houston we have take off.....Please just dont BOOM!...Managable growth please...
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Unread 04-05-2012, 06:23 AM
 
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Not unexpected given the other data available to us, but I suspect the official estimates will be given more play in the media and other public commentary.

And yes, this is core-area-driven growth, which is going to blow a lot of minds.
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Unread 04-05-2012, 06:31 AM
 
Location: Pittsburgh, PA
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This is great. I think the census showed the bottom dropped out in 2008 and the metro has had slow growth since then. So much fir no one wanting pay those high Allegheny County taxes and fleeing to the other counties lol. Also I wouldnt exactly call the surrounding counties suburban as once you are a few miles into them besides Westmoreland they take a rural nature in general.

Edit: I also looked at the country's 50 fastest growing Negros and morgantown was there was the population up 2" over a year.
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Unread 04-05-2012, 07:45 AM
 
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Edit: I also looked at the country's 50 fastest growing Negros and morgantown was there was the population up 2" over a year.
That can't be what you meant.
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Unread 04-05-2012, 07:51 AM
 
Location: Pittsburgh, PA (Lawrenceville)
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I was just looking at the PGH SNAP figures the other day, and it's unsurprising. Although still slightly higher than the national average, Pittsburgh proper has a far smaller percentage of seniors than the outlying counties. Even Allegheny County as a whole has a smaller over-60 population (measured as a percent) than any other county in the MSA except Butler. In contrast, there are some counties in the MSA (Westmoreland, for example) where over a quarter of the population is over 60. Basically, one would expect Allegheny to have a lower (or perhaps no) natural population decline, since we have less old people, even though on the whole the birth rate here is no different than the regional average. When you add in the net migration to the MSA coming here, and not to the exurbs, it's unsurprising.
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Unread 04-05-2012, 07:51 AM
 
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Nice P-G article:

Region's population turnaround has lasted and grown - Pittsburgh Post-Gazette

And the expected change in conventional wisdom is already in evidence.
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Unread 04-05-2012, 07:55 AM
 
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When you add in the net migration to the MSA coming here, and not to the exurbs, it's unsurprising.
No doubt, but that fact alone is going to be viewed as surprising by many.
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