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Old 09-16-2007, 09:17 PM
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Thanks for the thread Boylocke!I have read alot of the other"is Pittsburgh gay friendly?" posts and hadn't been entirely convinced one way or the other.Just another positive to add to my list!:-)
My pleasure!

You know what really bothers me, out of the clue blue - is the fact that so many of the young bar tenders at the local bars/clubs are straight! Like wtf. lol. I hate that "gay for pay" crap. They just like the fact that gay men tip stupidly well if you are attractive!!!!

LOL, am I right PApisces? Burns me up!!

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Old 09-16-2007, 09:26 PM
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My pleasure!

You know what really bothers me, out of the clue blue - is the fact that so many of the young bar tenders at the local bars/clubs are straight! Like wtf. lol. I hate that "gay for pay" crap. They just like the fact that gay men tip stupidly well if you are attractive!!!!

LOL, am I right PApisces? Burns me up!!
I will answer for him, You are SO right. I used to bartend during Southern Decadence Festival in the French Quarter. I would wear rainbow pom poms in my pigtails and rainbow eyeshadow and my "Proud to be a Hag" shirt. Mucho, mucho dollars. Its not just gay men either, lesbians tip exceptionally well. Seems liek family knows how to take care of people. I used to try to talk my hubby into bartending at OZ cuz he's so pretty and friendly but I think he's a little bit shy

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Old 09-16-2007, 09:43 PM
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I used to try to talk my hubby into bartending at OZ cuz he's so pretty and friendly but I think he's a little bit shy
LOL. He would have to get over that REAL quick. Gay men aren't shy.. and you're right, studies have been done, and we tip much higher than the national average. Gay men also tend to make more money than straight men (and women), I read a whole interesting study on it.

This is what the study claimed, you can believe it or not, I'm not sure if I do, but I do find it quite interesting.

First and foremost is the fact that men, on average, make more money than women. I'm not saying it's right at all! But that's a fact. In this man's world, men in the work force tend to be able to get ahead more easily for several reasons I won't go into. So right away, it makes sense that gay men make more than women. We are still men, you know. This is where things get interesting. The study says that while gay men still have intact the "manly advantage," if you will, they also have something more. According to this study, on average, gay men tend to be more personable, more energetic, and more creative than their straight male counterparts. This added layer gives them an edge that often lets them excel further and more quickly than straight men.

Very interesting. I will try to find the study. I read it at Duquesne when I was a sophomore. I also don't think they are talking about the flaming, in-your-face, "LEAVE BRITNEY ALONE" types. I'm sure in some ways, they are actually hindered in the work force. I'm sure there is a study!!

Also, the study compared people of single status. Many would say, "oh it's just because most gay men have no children!!" But that was accounted for.

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Old 09-16-2007, 09:55 PM
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I don't need a study to convince me. I got eyes I think something you have to take into account also is openmindedness. People that are open minded tend to be able to think outside the box to problem solve as well as figure out ways to get ahead. Add that to an inborn tendency to be creative, confident and, again, personable and voila...you have the recipe for success. That is why I am convinced I am a gay man trapped in a woman's body... I am all of these things.LOL. That and I just love boys:P

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Old 09-16-2007, 10:00 PM
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I don't need a study to convince me. I got eyes I think something you have to take into account also is openmindedness. People that are open minded tend to be able to think outside the box to problem solve as well as figure out ways to get ahead. Add that to an inborn tendency to be creative, confident and, again, personable and voila...you have the recipe for success. That is why I am convinced I am a gay man trapped in a woman's body... I am all of these things.LOL. That and I just love boys:P
You are quite funny! LOL! I laughed out loud, for real!!

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Old 09-16-2007, 10:20 PM
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You are quite funny! LOL! I laughed out loud, for real!!

That was my warm and fuzzy for the night. Remind me sometime to tell you my overall story. I have been painting all day and mine eyes are too tired to type

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Old 09-17-2007, 06:48 AM
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My pleasure!

You know what really bothers me, out of the clue blue - is the fact that so many of the young bar tenders at the local bars/clubs are straight! Like wtf. lol. I hate that "gay for pay" crap. They just like the fact that gay men tip stupidly well if you are attractive!!!!

LOL, am I right PApisces? Burns me up!!
Some day when you're old enough, I can tell ya stories about "straight" bartenders, lol. J/k!

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Old 09-17-2007, 08:05 AM
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Gay men also tend to make more money than straight men (and women), I read a whole interesting study on it.

This is what the study claimed, you can believe it or not, I'm not sure if I do, but I do find it quite interesting.
I'm not sure if gay men actually make more money than our heterosexual counterparts, but I would agree that gay men have much more access to disposable income than straight men or women. This is primarily due to the fact that most gay men and some lesbians have no child rearing responsibilities, which eat into disposable income in a big way.

I think this is what give many gay men and lesbians the appearance of making more money than our heterosexual counterparts. Just my $.02 worth!

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Old 09-17-2007, 08:08 AM
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As an aside, and slightly off topic, having moved from DC to Pittsburgh (very briefly) to Youngstown, I was very surprised at how much gay life there was in Y-town. Granted, it's nothing like Pittsburgh or Cleveland (which are nothing like DC or SF, where I have also lived), but there is a strong community up here and it's good to see.

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Old 09-17-2007, 08:13 AM
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How's it going in Youngstown? Are you starting to settle in?

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