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Old 05-10-2012, 06:11 AM
 
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These things are illegal and shouldn't even be sold in Pennsylvania. What is the use having laws prohibiting ATVs and dirt bikes if they aren't going to be enforced?
You're kidding, right? No ATV's? I use them several times a week for work and play but I stay on my land which is several acres.

Government makes all kinds of laws but in the real world, they're not as good as the legislators planned. Police chasing vehicles is inherently dangerous. With small vehicles (ATV's, dirt bikes, motorcycles...) even more so. They can prosecute but would prefer to do it without the chase.
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Old 05-10-2012, 06:25 AM
 
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You're kidding, right? No ATV's? I use them several times a week for work and play but I stay on my land which is several acres.

Government makes all kinds of laws but in the real world, they're not as good as the legislators planned. Police chasing vehicles is inherently dangerous. With small vehicles (ATV's, dirt bikes, motorcycles...) even more so. They can prosecute but would prefer to do it without the chase.
Sorry. I meant to say that they should not be sold in heavily populated, urban areas.

It's dangereous for the dirt bike/ATV riders, as well as people driving, to be weaving in and out of traffic on city streets.

I do think a law banning them from cities would be very difficult if not impossible to pass. The main complaint, for instance in my neighborhood, is that they are annoying and noisy. The riders could counter with the fact that motorcycles and some cars are just as bad or worse (and they would be correct). I really am not bothered by the noise in the daytime. After all I chose to live in the city, and cities have all kinds of noises.

However, what I don't like are the inconsiderates who go up and down the streets in the early hours of the morning during the weekday.
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Old 05-10-2012, 06:49 AM
 
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These things are illegal and shouldn't even be sold in Pennsylvania. What is the use having laws prohibiting ATVs and dirt bikes if they aren't going to be enforced?
Not everyone lives in the city.

I've been riding ATV's for years in the middle of nowhere but I obviously know not to ride one in the city. I thought about putting a plow on one to shovel snow on my private property in the city though.
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Old 05-10-2012, 07:27 AM
 
Location: Shadyside, Pittsburgh
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Not everyone lives in the city.

I've been riding ATV's for years in the middle of nowhere but I obviously know not to ride one in the city. I thought about putting a plow on one to shovel snow on my private property in the city though.
My dad uses his ATV for this purpose, in the City!!! In fact, other than pushing the occasional disabled car somewhere within his parking lot, that's the sole purpose of the ATV. I think he's been scared to ride it for fun since my younger brother broke his arm on it a few years ago.

Banning sale or storage in urban areas is about the most ridiculous thing I've heard. Do you think that most of the people riding them on the streets in urban land bought from dealers anyways?
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Old 05-10-2012, 08:09 AM
 
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Debbie and I may sound a little bit hyper about ATVs in the city because of the Philly situation - it is hard to explain just how distressing the packs of ATVs can be on crowded roads, weaving in and out of traffic. They are a danger to pedestrians, bikers, and other motorists. The police believe that a lot of drug deals are done via ATV, since they cannot chase them - easy way to evade the police! And, this may be my biggest beef: fools who tear up parks and become a menace driving them and imperiling park walkers.

I'm fine with legal use of ATVs but for those knuckleheads who do not act responsibly, I'd love to know how the police will enforce the law here in Pittsburgh.
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Old 05-10-2012, 08:28 AM
 
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My thoughts exactly Ebyrnes.

Here's a recent article from the Patch.

Late-Night Dirt Bikes Problematic for Neighbors - Roxborough-Manayunk, PA Patch

Though Roxborough remains one of the city's safest neighbors, quality of life concerns persist for some residents. As temperatures increase, so do the frequency of late-night dirt bike rides through the hilly and narrow residential streets.
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Old 05-10-2012, 08:32 AM
 
Location: Shadyside, Pittsburgh
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Debbie and I may sound a little bit hyper about ATVs in the city because of the Philly situation - it is hard to explain just how distressing the packs of ATVs can be on crowded roads, weaving in and out of traffic. They are a danger to pedestrians, bikers, and other motorists. The police believe that a lot of drug deals are done via ATV, since they cannot chase them - easy way to evade the police! And, this may be my biggest beef: fools who tear up parks and become a menace driving them and imperiling park walkers.

I'm fine with legal use of ATVs but for those knuckleheads who do not act responsibly, I'd love to know how the police will enforce the law here in Pittsburgh.
Please see my post above about the dirt bike on Liberty Ave. They're illegal on the street. Pretty sure they're not illegal to own.
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Old 05-10-2012, 09:58 AM
 
Location: Yeah
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My response - "Seriously, how many kids do you think are riding dirtbikes in Garfield on the sidewalk right now?"
Awesome!
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Old 05-10-2012, 10:04 AM
 
Location: Yeah
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Pretty sure they're illegal on the streets,
That's correct: the only roads ATV's are allowed on are marked snowmobile routes and you can only ride ATV's on those roads if the vehicle is properly licensed.

I had years of enjoyment on dirt bikes and ATV's in eastern Erie County. The only time I see them in our part of the city is during excessive snow fall, when people use them to plow their drive ways. I also saw snowmobiles on the streets during the snow disaster two years ago.

I was just thinking the other day, I am amazed at how people seem to obey the no motorized vehicle policy in our city and county parks. It would be awfully inviting to me to blast around in Frick Park for sure.
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Old 05-10-2012, 10:23 AM
 
Location: Shadyside, Pittsburgh
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One of my favorite things to do during a snow storm when I had my racing ATV was blast around the streets. I don't think that's the same as what the OP is concerned about, though. Again, illegal. Cops will probably try to stop it, esp if they're already nearby, but it's pretty hard if there's a trail in the general area. Hard right and you're in the woods and gone.
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