Important article about new voter ID law (Penn: leases, mortgage)

[LibraGirl123]

Originally Posted by UKyank

They handed out an information sheet on this when you voted in the primary this year.

And no, I do not believe many people can function in modern society without proper ID - unless someone is paying you in cash or you have hordes of cash stashed, how do you deposit or withdraw money to live?

Purging of voter rolls must be lax here too as my friend who is registered in VA & voted in the primary there also got a ballot from PA in the mail.

PA will not send out an absentee ballot unless a voter first completes (and mails) an absentee ballot application. A person cannot request an absentee ballot in PA unless they're registered in that state. Is your friend registered in VA and PA? If so, that's illegal. Your friend should have notified PA that he/she had moved and had reregistered.

[ex-burgher]

The New York Times' Bill Keller is in favor of a national id card. His arguments make sense and it would go a long way to solving the voter id issue as well
http://www.nytimes.com/2012/07/02/op...pagewanted=all

[UKyank]

Originally Posted by LibraGirl123

PA will not send out an absentee ballot unless a voter first completes (and mails) an absentee ballot application. A person cannot request an absentee ballot in PA unless they're registered in that state. Is your friend registered in VA and PA? If so, that's illegal. Your friend should have notified PA that he/she had moved and had reregistered.

If the voter is required to self police themselves from getting multiple ballots to vote on that = a problem.

[UKyank]

If I recall you are required to show ID the first time you vote in a new area, that requirement should have had people up in arms as well as disenfranchising voters.

You might not need ID for every bank transaction, but you most definately do to have opened the account in the first place.

[BrianTH]

Originally Posted by UKyank

You might not need ID for every bank transaction, but you most definately do to have opened the account in the first place.

Is that true if, say, it was a joint account at the time? And of course that could have been years ago, moves ago, and so forth.

[BrianTH]

Originally Posted by UKyank

If I recall you are required to show ID the first time you vote in a new area, that requirement should have had people up in arms as well as disenfranchising voters.

Perhaps so, but among other things the new law has reduced the field of acceptable IDs, and of course there are many long-time voters known by their polling officials.

[UKyank]

Originally Posted by BrianTH

Perhaps so, but among other things the new law has reduced the field of acceptable IDs, and of course there are many long-time voters known by their polling officials.

That's never been enforced any time I have ever voted either in any new area. http://www.votespa.com/portal/server..._voters/585297

Either way you're right, the merits of the law are less relevant at this point then is making sure everyone that wishes to vote knows what they need in order to do so.

[BrianTH]

Yeah, our recent discussion is useful in my mind more just to help identify people we know who might not have the necessary ID yet. For example, married or formerly married people who don't drive these days is a pretty common scenario around here.

[Hopes]

Originally Posted by BrianTH

I'm trying to remember when I have recently had to use my driver's license as proof of ID. The only thing I can come up with is buying a bunch of gift cards.

At the hospital. When using health insurance, the hospital requires photo identification to deter insurance fraud. Apparently, some people without health insurance use cards of friends and family members with their permission.

At Game Stop and other video game stores. When trading in video games, the gaming stores have to follow pawn shop laws since people can steal video games to get money from these stores.

At the township swimming pool. Gotta prove residency to get the resident discount.

At the library. Gotta prove residency to get a library card.

At the Alcoa building. You need to show ID to the security guards to get a visitor pass.

Hmmmmm....Those are the only places I recall needing identification aside from the obvious places like social security office, passport office, etc.

I never need it at the bank because I never make cash withdrawls inside. ID isn't required for deposits.

[quaymorris]

Originally Posted by Hopes

I never need it at the bank because I never make cash withdrawls inside. ID isn't required for deposits.

Same here and I didn't think my bank was the only one who didn't require ID for deposits. I rarely set foot into a bank. The only times I use my ID now is when I'm buying alcohol. My mom opened my current bank account when I was really young so I haven't had to use ID for that. Or for opening my current USAA account, which I also got through my parents.