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Old 06-09-2013, 07:10 AM
 
Location: Marshall-Shadeland, Pittsburgh, PA
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Many of the people making east liberty what it is today aren't old enough to remember what it was like 30 years ago. Many are coming from out of state or coming back to pgh after a decade away. It is sort of an undoing of what the previous generation couldn't do.

The guys from walnut capital stated that older ( likely 50+) pittsburghers have preconceived notions regarding neighborhoods and businesses - based on the past, not the present. Most of the google employees are coming from out of state and they don't know how sh!tty east lib was in the 80s or how nice it was 50 years ago, nor do they really care. What matters is what's going on now.
^ I think a lot of the old "yinzers" don't realize that there truly IS a "new" Pittsburgh now. Jack Wagner's crushing defeat is good evidence of how the "old guard" has no clue how to connect with our youth. Our city has become noticeably younger, more educated, more affluent, and more diverse even just since I moved here in 2010. I don't know what East Liberty looked like in its heyday (nor do I care). All I care about is that East Liberty is MUCH better already than even just 2010, and I'm excited to think of how much better it will be in 2020 vs. 2013.
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Old 06-09-2013, 07:54 AM
 
Location: Umbrosa Regio
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The guys from walnut capital stated that older ( likely 50+) pittsburghers have preconceived notions regarding neighborhoods and businesses - based on the past, not the present. Most of the google employees are coming from out of state and they don't know how sh!tty east lib was in the 80s or how nice it was 50 years ago, nor do they really care. What matters is what's going on now.
Indeed. It reminds me of that rant thread started recently about someone's friend who wasn't willing to eat at a restaurant in Lawrenceville because it was considered a bad area in the 70s. Sometimes it takes a fresh perspective to really see the potential in an area, and also what it takes for that area to reach that potential.
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Old 06-09-2013, 10:07 AM
 
Location: North Oakland
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I don't know what East Liberty looked like in its heyday (nor do I care). All I care about is that East Liberty is MUCH better already than even just 2010, and I'm excited to think of how much better it will be in 2020 vs. 2013.
You do realize that the same influences that cause East Liberty to be so "much better" are the same ones that cause "The Great East End Housing Crisis" about which you so frequently, and so vociferously, wail, don't you?
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Old 06-09-2013, 11:07 AM
 
Location: Pittsburgh
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You do realize that the same influences that cause East Liberty to be so "much better" are the same ones that cause "The Great East End Housing Crisis" about which you so frequently, and so vociferously, wail, don't you?

In the mid 1990's, you could have bought a home with good bones in L'ville or East Lib for a very affordable price, that's for sure.
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Old 06-10-2013, 08:46 AM
 
Location: Pittsburgh
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VIA's '6119' music and arts venue on Penn Ave will be closing at the end of this month to clear the way for a redeveloped block. Really hoping a new space can be found in East Liberty, because a lot of the coolest businesses are being transformed into new (dull) uses. Shadow Lounge was another one.

Press release:
https://www.facebook.com/notes/6119/...58007467571482
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Old 06-10-2013, 10:06 AM
 
Location: Umbrosa Regio
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That would be a result of the Alphabet City development. I wonder if any effort was put into seeing if those buildings along Penn could have been rehabilitated with the awful post-war facades removed. The building Yen's is in certainly looks better than it did a couple decades ago.
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Old 06-10-2013, 11:03 AM
 
Location: ɥbɹnqsʇʇıd
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VIA's '6119' music and arts venue on Penn Ave will be closing at the end of this month to clear the way for a redeveloped block. Really hoping a new space can be found in East Liberty, because a lot of the coolest businesses are being transformed into new (dull) uses. Shadow Lounge was another one.

Press release:
https://www.facebook.com/notes/6119/...58007467571482
You guys are closing 6119? Damn....
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Old 06-10-2013, 01:24 PM
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VIA's '6119' music and arts venue on Penn Ave will be closing at the end of this month to clear the way for a redeveloped block.
thank you for adding to the list
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Old 06-10-2013, 01:36 PM
 
Location: Pittsburgh
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thank you for adding to the list
6119 is closing due to gentrification. The opposite of why you started this thread.
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Old 06-10-2013, 01:39 PM
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Location: Pittsburgh
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Looks like East Liberty isn't going to be cool at all. Ugh! Oh well, at least they have some good groceries at Whole Foods and Trader Joes. Shame it didn't go well. Should have left the Sears there, but too much theft of course. All the retail gets robbed like crazy, so that is why only the big companies can stay. Litter, theft and crime fill the area. Not much anyone can do about it because there are too many subsidies. That brings the leaches in.
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