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Old 04-03-2013, 01:59 PM
 
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Richard Florida Concedes the Limits of the Creative Class - The Daily Beast

Found this article interesting, especially in that it is targeted towards many rust-belt cities. Its also a model that Pittsburgh has more or less not emualted to its benefit (apparently at least according to the article). Most of the city's success has been real rather then attempted to be forced.
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Old 04-03-2013, 02:02 PM
 
Location: Pittsburgh
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This has been discussed in another forum.

http://www.city-data.com/forum/urban...ive-class.html

I'll mention Florida's response again.

Did I Abandon My Creative Class Theory? Not So Fast, Joel Kotkin - The Daily Beast
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Old 04-03-2013, 02:06 PM
 
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Thats what I get for not venturing beyond my own city forum on here

Seriously though, I think its great that Pittsburgh has its creative types & areas, but which are largely home-grown rather then trying to build it & they will come type policy other cities have attempted.
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Old 04-03-2013, 02:31 PM
 
Location: Pittsburgh
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If it comes up on a third thread, I'll read the articles.
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Old 04-03-2013, 02:32 PM
 
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What makes you say that they're home-grown rather than policy based? It seems like they started improving their biking infrastructure right about the same time that the rest of the cities were doing it, ditto cultural improvements, and even the "organic" or "home grown" improvements had some support from the local government. I am not seeing this as an either-or question.
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Old 04-03-2013, 02:32 PM
 
Location: Brooklyn, NY
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You might check out cityLAB's 6% place project in Garfield, which seeks kind of a grassroots approach to fostering a a "creative class" at a neighborhood scale
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Old 04-03-2013, 05:26 PM
 
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The bottom line is - people like to live in the suburbs:

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Yet this footprint of such “cool” districts that appeal to largely childless, young urbanistas in the core is far smaller in most cities than commonly reported. Between 2000 and 2010, notes demographer Wendell Cox, the urban core areas of the 51 largest metropolitan areas—within two miles of the city’s center—added a total of 206,000 residents. But the surrounding rings, between two and five miles from the core, actually lost 272,000. In contrast to those small gains and losses, the suburban areas—between 10 and 20 miles from the center —experienced a growth of roughly 15 million people....
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Old 04-03-2013, 06:34 PM
 
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I like that this topic is being discussed in the Pittsburgh forum about how it pertains or doesn't pertain here.
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Old 04-03-2013, 08:52 PM
 
Location: Umbrosa Regio
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The bottom line is - people like to live in the suburbs:
Here are numbers for Pittsburgh, Allegheny County, and the Pittsburgh MSA for 2010-2012:

Pittsburgh 2010: 305,704
Pittsburgh 2012: 308,090
Net increase of 2,386

Allegheny County 2010: 1,223,348
Allegheny County 2012: 1,229,338
Net increase of 5,990

Pittsburgh MSA 2010: 2,356,285
Pittsburgh MSA 2012: 2,360,733
Net increase of 4,448

This means that Allegheny County grew while the outer counties as a whole shrunk (Armstrong, Beaver, Fayette, and Westmoreland were down, Butler and Washington were up)

Also, 40% of the population increase in Allegheny County is attributable to Pittsburgh itself. Pittsburgh has 25% of the population and 7.6% the land area of Allegheny County. Assuming these estimates are accurate, it looks like population change in the Pittsburgh area is center-driven.
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Old 04-03-2013, 09:01 PM
 
Location: Marshall-Shadeland, Pittsburgh, PA
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Here are numbers for Pittsburgh, Allegheny County, and the Pittsburgh MSA for 2010-2012:

Pittsburgh 2010: 305,704
Pittsburgh 2012: 308,090
Net increase of 2,386

Allegheny County 2010: 1,223,348
Allegheny County 2012: 1,229,338
Net increase of 5,990

Pittsburgh MSA 2010: 2,356,285
Pittsburgh MSA 2012: 2,360,733
Net increase of 4,448

This means that Allegheny County grew while the outer counties as a whole shrunk (Armstrong, Beaver, Fayette, and Westmoreland were down, Butler and Washington were up)

Also, 40% of the population increase in Allegheny County is attributable to Pittsburgh itself. Pittsburgh has 25% of the population and 7.6% the land area of Allegheny County. Assuming these estimates are accurate, it looks like population change in the Pittsburgh area is center-driven.

^ (Sigh). Posts like this make me miss BrianTH.
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