What pieces of the puzzle does Pittsburgh lack to be a great city? (Indiana: for sale, house)

[MathmanMathman]

Originally Posted by Tiger Beer

Pittsburgh wouldn't be Pittsburgh if it followed a World Class City model.

You'd basically have to have a large large large influx of money...like what you'd see in Dubai these days. Tons of engineering to manipulate Pittsburgh so that it looks more like Hong Kong or New York City or somewhere like that. I think it would be almost short of completely unlikely. Like you'd need NYC to drop off the face of the earth somehow, and have everyone unanimously agree that Pittsburgh should be that 'world's great city' to have an endless flow of capital and money going into it to replace what NYC was, etc.

In short, it's just not really possible. Pittsburgh is Pittsburgh. It can't replace or compete with NYC while NYC exists, and even if NYC suddenly ceased to exist, it's highly unlikely Pittsburgh would rise to the occasion to replace NYC's status.

I'd say, in terms of topography, Pittsburgh is somewhat similar to San Francisco minus the ocean port, and San Francisco is a World Class city. Plus Atlanta shows that the ocean port is not necessary. And while NYC is dominant, Philadelphia and Boston hold up internationally.

But I'm not suggesting that Pittsburgh should be World Class. It's more a question of what it should be and what elements is it missing? Atlanta is going places, but where is Pittsburgh going?

[pman]

Originally Posted by zman63

You are entitled to your opinion. What you stated about columbus is exactly how I feel about pittsburgh minus the clean part.

You may not think columbus is great but there are alot more people that like it and see it as more business friendly than pittsburgh. Pittsburgh needs to learn from columbus or a city like it when it comes to business and population growth.

Of course our leaders go to cleveland for ideas instead

PITTSBURGH is fairly clean. maybe columbus is cleaner owing to the lack of people there

[zman63]

Originally Posted by pman

PITTSBURGH is fairly clean. maybe columbus is cleaner owing to the lack of people there

??????????. Ok pman do you walk around with a blind fold on?

[zman63]

Originally Posted by jay5835

Move there. Now. Please.

Boy that is really in depth analysis. It would be nice if somebody could explain what a city like columbus is doing to grow its population / jobs by the thousands and where pittsburgh is missing the boat.

[zman63]

Originally Posted by Moby Hick

I lived in Columbus, OH for ten years or so before coming here. It was nice enough, but not so nice that I feel the need to try to replicate it. Also, I'm not sure what "The Magazine of Corporate Real Estate Strategy and Area Economic Development" is, but it sounds fishy.

Diversity is important....

Columbus

[speagles84]

Originally Posted by zman63

Boy that is really in depth analysis. It would be nice if somebody could explain what a city like columbus is doing to grow its population / jobs by the thousands and where pittsburgh is missing the boat.

By having negligible growth in the core and annexing their cranberrys. Take your blind fold off. Its not a difficult situation to understand.

[pman]

Originally Posted by zman63

??????????. Ok pman do you walk around with a blind fold on?

I think you walk around with poop colored glasses. Pittsburgh might be a bit "shabby" in a lot of places but it's not dirty in my experience.

[speagles84]

Originally Posted by pman

I think you walk around with poop colored glasses. Pittsburgh might be a bit "shabby" in a lot of places but it's not dirty in my experience.

It is compared to the garden of eden - zmans ideal city.

[pghdude28]

This whole thread is a pipe dream if you can't change the predominant attitude of the locals as well as the 1885 era political environment. It's a safe, stagnant, mediocre city that values sameness. It is not experimental enough to even make it a terrible city, let alone great city. Sure it has character and natural beauty. Sure it ain't Detroit. But everything here moves at a snails pace, if not at all. Take some risks Pittsburgh!

[Hopes]

Originally Posted by zman63

Boy that is really in depth analysis. It would be nice if somebody could explain what a city like columbus is doing to grow its population / jobs by the thousands and where pittsburgh is missing the boat.

Is population growth and job growth important to you? If so, you might want to reconsider moving to Vermont. That state is one of only two states that lost population last year. The economic climate is frightening up there. It is forecasted to have a stagnant economy for the next 30 years. Are you, by chance, one of those people who will never be happy wherever you live? Who will always be unhappy and find something to complain about? Cause it seems silly that you think it's a positive thing to move to Vermont when it's worse for everything you complain about here. Let me do you a favor and warn you about something. Vermonters don't like change. If you move there, you better keep your mouth shut about how it could be improved or you will lead an extremely lonely life that borders on people being hostile towards you.