01-21-2014, 10:34 AM
Location: Pittsburgh area
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Weird. I always escape trouble somehow.
I had very slow traffic but that's it.
The temp is cold and getting colder so the treatments will be less effective than if it were 30 degrees out.
01-21-2014, 10:34 AM
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Still have my snows from when I lived up on Mt Washington and felt like I was gonna die every time I ventured out.
01-21-2014, 10:37 AM
Location: The Flagship City and Vacation in the Paris of Appalachia
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Originally Posted by
Aqua Teen Carl
People on this forum scoff at the idea of snow tires, yet I saw 4 SUV's lose control this morning while I just coasted along in my little 4 cylinder with some Blizzaks.....
I am with you here and with all of the snow we have had in Erie this year I finally broke down and got a set of the Michelin X-Ice tires and they are awesome. I also have the tire chains in the trunk in case things get really bad. It is nice getting very good traction on snow covered roads while still enjoying the gas mileage of my Honda Civic. It is funny though I love the looks I get when the roads are terrible and I keep chugging along with the chains.
01-21-2014, 11:14 AM
Location: Crafton via San Francisco
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Aqua Teen Carl
AWD will only help for acceleration and will not help with traction like snow tires would.
Thanks for the advice. I've only had regular tires in CA and used chains if we went to Tahoe to ski and the road conditions were bad. I work from home but I'm going to be going on a lot of appointments for one of my clients. I'm going to wait and see how much driving I'm actually doing in bad conditions before I decide if I should invest in snow tires. How are they for driving when the roads are clear? I imagine you leave them on all winter, right?
01-21-2014, 11:29 AM
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Goodjules
How are they for driving when the roads are clear? I imagine you leave them on all winter, right?
A little more "mushy" feel and probably slightly worse gas mileage than my regular tires.
01-21-2014, 12:29 PM
Location: Pittsburgh area
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SammyKhalifa
A little more "mushy" feel and probably slightly worse gas mileage than my regular tires.
Yeah, the handling on the winter tires is not so nice generally, at least the ones that are best in snow. There are some performance oriented winter tires as well, but I found those unnecessary.
The way to get really good snow performance is to minus size from the OEM. To do this you need to get a second set of wheels in the smaller size, but the benefit in addition to better snow performance is you don't have to have tires mounted and balanced twice a year. Instead you just swap them like you were changing a flat, which you can do yourself if so inclined. For example my OEM tires and wheels are 15" and I got 14" snow tires on some cheap steel wheels from Tire Rack. When ordered as a package they come already mounted and I was able to put them on the car myself that night. The taller, narrower tires were better in the snow. On the dry, they were noisier and didn't handle as crisply.
It's a tough call. I enjoyed having the real snow tires when I had them, but after they wore out I did not get another set.
01-21-2014, 12:32 PM
Location: Western PA
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If I buy snow tires now, then we're guaranteed to not have any more snow this winter.
01-21-2014, 12:33 PM
Location: Pittsburgh
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Originally Posted by
Aqua Teen Carl
AWD will only help for acceleration and will not help with traction like snow tires would.
That isn't exactly true. AWD can also help in control on a downhill. They are amazingly good at steering. I have a 6sp Manual and can use that downshifting for certain situations. When encountering ice like that video posted, ALL vehicles are sunk. It is best to have a very light vehicle as you can clearly see how fast that giant SUV is accelerating just from all that weight. Luckily for them, they hit a car early in that ride. If they kept going, it would have been flying.
01-21-2014, 12:37 PM
Location: Pittsburgh
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Originally Posted by
Goodjules
What do people do on those really steep hills in Beechview? Are they stuck in their houses until the roads are treated?
When I lived up on a steep hill in the city the veterans of the area would simply keep an eye on the weather forecast and if there was a chance of such weather, they would park at the bottom of the hill on a side street. Then they would just walk down and go to work. Just some planning. It isn't all that often we have crazy weather. Just be smart about it.
To Aqua. I agree that Blizzaks are great tires. When I had a Jaguar VDP with limited slip in the rear, and Blizzaks, it would go crazy good in the snow. It was so much fun to fly up hills with that tank. I had some sand bags in the trunk as well. It was better than FWD.
01-21-2014, 12:41 PM
Location: Awkward Manor
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If I buy snow tires now, then we're guaranteed to not have any more snow this winter.
What can you do to keep the temperatures higher than freezing?
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House heating fuel used in apartments - Solar energy (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Other fuel (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - No fuel used (%)
Armed forces status - In Armed Forces (%)
Armed forces status - Civilian (%)
Armed forces status - Civilian - Veteran (%)
Armed forces status - Civilian - Nonveteran (%)
Fatal accidents locations in years 2005-2021
Fatal accidents locations in 2005
Fatal accidents locations in 2006
Fatal accidents locations in 2007
Fatal accidents locations in 2008
Fatal accidents locations in 2009
Fatal accidents locations in 2010
Fatal accidents locations in 2011
Fatal accidents locations in 2012
Fatal accidents locations in 2013
Fatal accidents locations in 2014
Fatal accidents locations in 2015
Fatal accidents locations in 2016
Fatal accidents locations in 2017
Fatal accidents locations in 2018
Fatal accidents locations in 2019
Fatal accidents locations in 2020
Fatal accidents locations in 2021
Alcohol use - People drinking some alcohol every month (%)
Alcohol use - People not drinking at all (%)
Alcohol use - Average days/month drinking alcohol
Alcohol use - Average drinks/week
Alcohol use - Average days/year people drink much
Audiometry - Average condition of hearing (%)
Audiometry - People that can hear a whisper from across a quiet room (%)
Audiometry - People that can hear normal voice from across a quiet room (%)
Audiometry - Ears ringing, roaring, buzzing (%)
Audiometry - Had a job exposure to loud noise (%)
Audiometry - Had off-work exposure to loud noise (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Has high blood pressure (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Checking blood pressure at home (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Frequently checking blood cholesterol (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Has high cholesterol level (%)
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on food at supermarket/grocery store
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on food at other stores
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on eating out
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on carryout/delivered foods
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on food at supermarket/grocery store (%)
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on food at other stores (%)
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on eating out (%)
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on carryout/delivered foods (%)
Current Health Status - General health condition (%)
Current Health Status - Blood donors (%)
Current Health Status - Has blood ever tested for HIV virus (%)
Current Health Status - Left-handed people (%)
Dermatology - People using sunscreen (%)
Diabetes - Diabetics (%)
Diabetes - Had a blood test for high blood sugar (%)
Diabetes - People taking insulin (%)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Diet health (%)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Milk product consumption (# of products/month)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Meals not home prepared (#/week)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Meals from fast food or pizza place (#/week)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Ready-to-eat foods (#/month)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Frozen meals/pizza (#/month)
Drug Use - People that ever used marijuana or hashish (%)
Drug Use - Ever used hard drugs (%)
Drug Use - Ever used any form of cocaine (%)
Drug Use - Ever used heroin (%)
Drug Use - Ever used methamphetamine (%)
Health Insurance - People covered by health insurance (%)
Kidney Conditions-Urology - Avg. # of times urinating at night
Medical Conditions - People with asthma (%)
Medical Conditions - People with anemia (%)
Medical Conditions - People with psoriasis (%)
Medical Conditions - People with overweight (%)
Medical Conditions - Elderly people having difficulties in thinking or remembering (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever received blood transfusion (%)
Medical Conditions - People having trouble seeing even with glass/contacts (%)
Medical Conditions - People with arthritis (%)
Medical Conditions - People with gout (%)
Medical Conditions - People with congestive heart failure (%)
Medical Conditions - People with coronary heart disease (%)
Medical Conditions - People with angina pectoris (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever had heart attack (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever had stroke (%)
Medical Conditions - People with emphysema (%)
Medical Conditions - People with thyroid problem (%)
Medical Conditions - People with chronic bronchitis (%)
Medical Conditions - People with any liver condition (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever had cancer or malignancy (%)
Mental Health - People who have little interest in doing things (%)
Mental Health - People feeling down, depressed, or hopeless (%)
Mental Health - People who have trouble sleeping or sleeping too much (%)
Mental Health - People feeling tired or having little energy (%)
Mental Health - People with poor appetite or overeating (%)
Mental Health - People feeling bad about themself (%)
Mental Health - People who have trouble concentrating on things (%)
Mental Health - People moving or speaking slowly or too fast (%)
Mental Health - People having thoughts they would be better off dead (%)
Oral Health - Average years since last visit a dentist
Oral Health - People embarrassed because of mouth (%)
Oral Health - People with gum disease (%)
Oral Health - General health of teeth and gums (%)
Oral Health - Average days a week using dental floss/device
Oral Health - Average days a week using mouthwash for dental problem
Oral Health - Average number of teeth
Pesticide Use - Households using pesticides to control insects (%)
Pesticide Use - Households using pesticides to kill weeds (%)
Physical Activity - People doing vigorous-intensity work activities (%)
Physical Activity - People doing moderate-intensity work activities (%)
Physical Activity - People walking or bicycling (%)
Physical Activity - People doing vigorous-intensity recreational activities (%)
Physical Activity - People doing moderate-intensity recreational activities (%)
Physical Activity - Average hours a day doing sedentary activities
Physical Activity - Average hours a day watching TV or videos
Physical Activity - Average hours a day using computer
Physical Functioning - People having limitations keeping them from working (%)
Physical Functioning - People limited in amount of work they can do (%)
Physical Functioning - People that need special equipment to walk (%)
Physical Functioning - People experiencing confusion/memory problems (%)
Physical Functioning - People requiring special healthcare equipment (%)
Prescription Medications - Average number of prescription medicines taking
Preventive Aspirin Use - Adults 40+ taking low-dose aspirin (%)
Reproductive Health - Vaginal deliveries (%)
Reproductive Health - Cesarean deliveries (%)
Reproductive Health - Deliveries resulted in a live birth (%)
Reproductive Health - Pregnancies resulted in a delivery (%)
Reproductive Health - Women breastfeeding newborns (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that had a hysterectomy (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that had both ovaries removed (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that have ever taken birth control pills (%)
Reproductive Health - Women taking birth control pills (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that have ever used Depo-Provera or injectables (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that have ever used female hormones (%)
Sexual Behavior - People 18+ that ever had sex (vaginal, anal, or oral) (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever had vaginal sex with a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever performed oral sex on a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever had anal sex with a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever had any sex with a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever had vaginal sex with a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever performed oral sex on a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever had anal sex with a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever had any kind of sex with a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Average age people first had sex
Sexual Behavior - Average number of female sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of female vaginal sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average age people first performed oral sex on a woman (18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of woman performed oral sex on in lifetime (18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male anal sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average age people first performed oral sex on a man (18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male oral sex partners in lifetime (18+)
Sexual Behavior - People using protection when performing oral sex (%)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of times people have vaginal or anal sex a year
Sexual Behavior - People having sex without condom (%)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male sex partners in lifetime (females 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male vaginal sex partners in lifetime (females 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of female sex partners in lifetime (females 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Circumcised males 18+ (%)
Sleep Disorders - Average hours sleeping at night
Sleep Disorders - People that has trouble sleeping (%)
Smoking-Cigarette Use - People smoking cigarettes (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ having problems with smell (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ having problems with taste (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had wisdom teeth removed (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had tonsils teeth removed (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had a loss of consciousness because of a head injury (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had a broken nose or other serious injury to face or skull (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had two or more sinus infections (%)
Weight - Average height (inches)
Weight - Average weight (pounds)
Weight - Average BMI
Weight - People that are obese (%)
Weight - People that ever were obese (%)
Weight - People trying to lose weight (%)
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