Where is the Ghetto? (Pittsburgh, Penn Hills: apartments, rent, lofts)

[Drover]

City targets surge in deadly gang violence

Thursday, January 31, 2008

By Michael A. Fuoco, Pittsburgh Post-Gazette
Steve Mellon / Post-Gazette

As police arrested one suspect and sought another in the shooting death Monday of a 12-year-old Perry South girl, authorities announced an intensified effort to combat a sharp upswing in gang violence.

District Attorney Stephen A. Zappala Jr. said local, state and federal officials will use whatever is necessary to break up gangs and the accompanying violence that resulted in two shooting deaths this week.(Click here for full article)

But don't worry folks. It may bad enough to get the feds involved, but there's no "real" gang problem in Pittsburgh.

[Windwalker]

Steer clear of Homewood, Lincoln-Larimer, parts of East Liberty and Garfield (though these last two are being rehabbed in many places and would therefore be good buys).

Perry South seems to be having drug shoot-outs recently.

[sfalady]

Originally Posted by MisterB1974

Here's the list of ghettoes in the 'Burgh:

1) Hill District (A Watered down version of Harlem)
2) Garfield
3) Larimer
4) Manchester
5) Homewood
6) Lincoln
7) Wilkinsburg (parts of it)---Not part of Pittsburgh proper
8) Braddock---'' "
9) Beltzhoover
10) Whitaker--- Not part of Pittsburgh proper

Don't forget Squirrel Hill which could be considered a Jewish Ghetto or Polish Hill which could be considered a Polish ghetto. If we use Ghetto to its true meaning.. Ghetto's are not just a color thing. I might even consider Garfield a lower income white ghetto..etc..

[subdivisions]

Originally Posted by sfalady

Don't forget Squirrel Hill which could be considered a Jewish Ghetto or Polish Hill which could be considered a Polish ghetto. If we use Ghetto to its true meaning.. Ghetto's are not just a color thing. I might even consider Garfield a lower income white ghetto..etc..

The ghetto of Squirrel Hill. Bwah! Now I've seen it all on City-Data Forum: Pittsburgh!

[billie michener]

Hi Tom,

I recentley read your message about "where is the Ghetto" and the responses you got back from some miss informed people. particlarly mister brewski on 1-4-08 where he states that Mt. Oliver is more of a white ghetto.

let me state some true facts.

I have lived in Mt. Oliver since 1986. I was borned and raised on the So. Side.
I moved to Mt. Oliver because it had the following: Post office, it's own police department, borough commette members, street department, along with many many long time bussiness owners like a flower shop, hair salons, medical center, clothing stores, car dealer ship, several banks, restraunts, beer dist, baker shop etc. It's a community with about 4,000 residents. we are on the border lines of the City Of Pittsburgh. A lot of people in surounding areas don't know that one side of the street could be the city and the other side is our brough. So when anything bad happens in the city Mt. Oliver gets the blame.
Dont know of too many other neighborhoods that have everything that I mentioned above. We have a community where people do care, and just like everywhere else in the world has it's share of a small amount of people that dont care where they live, and crete problems. So, let me invite mister brewski and anyone else who feels that Mt. Olive is a white ghetto to a personel tour in order to get their facts straight before they go shooting their months off with untrue information.

[simetime]

True Dat! Many people look at ghettos as poor and minority owned........check out the true definition of the word "ghetto"!

[simetime]

In order the understand why they (one-hill) is doing what they are, is to understand the history of the Hill and it's relationship the powers of Pittsburgh. The hill once extended all the way to the edge of town where blacks and jews lived side by side and owned their own grocery stores, shops ect. When the arena was built many blacks/jews where displaced and sent to fend for themselves. The building of the Civic Arena has not benefited the people that it has removed from their homes and displaced. Think about this, what group of people have benefited mostly from hockey games, monster truck shows, rock concerts and other events? Hint: It was not the people from the Hill, since many of them could not afford the events or had no interest in them. Another thing to think about, what other city residents would be inconvienced by the construction and/or traffic congestion caused by the new arena? One more thing, the hill will not be "kept" black by any means of anyones imagination simply because whites are now buying up the property that blacks can no longer afford to buy. In retrospect the One hill organization is really not helping the "blacks" it is helping whoever is not afraid to invest in the Hill for the near future

[By~Tor]

I've always liked the idea of older 'hoods being "re-taken" by those who would invest in their infrastructure and bring them back to their former grandeur.

When we were looking to move to Rochester NY, we went up there for a spell, and were amazed at how liveable the central-city areas were. Sure, there were a FEW "rough" areas, largely out by the abandoned eastman-Kodak company, but when a city the size of Rochester can claim only ONE Zip Code as being undesireable or unsafe, then I think that says something about the city's committment to keeping the inner areas viable and productive.....

[NYSTYLE]

Originally Posted by MisterB1974

Here's the list of ghettoes in the 'Burgh:

1) Hill District (A Watered down version of Harlem)
2) Garfield
3) Larimer
4) Manchester
5) Homewood
6) Lincoln
7) Wilkinsburg (parts of it)---Not part of Pittsburgh proper
8) Braddock---'' "
9) Beltzhoover
10) Whitaker--- Not part of Pittsburgh proper

FYI Harlem? are we talking NYC cause it is no longer a Ghetto. It is now so expensive it is now being renamed Millionaires Row.

[NYSTYLE]

I lived in Carson City Nevada. No blacks or Latinos. It was the White trash that make this once nice city A Ghetto. So don't assume that since your neighbor/s are black or Latin they are Ghetto fabulous. There are many low class white folks living next to you.

just wondering what on earth would you do if a Big Black Man and His Hot Latin Lover Moved next door. Would you run back to Boston?