Where is the Ghetto? (Erie, Homestead: skateparks, malls, parks)

[mr.davon24]

Originally Posted by saturdayskids

Using ebonics and wearing oversized clothes and listening to rap are all signs of someone who lives in, or wants to live in a Ghetto. It's certainly possible to do these three things and NOT live in a ghetto or WANT to, but why are you doing it?

Why are you wearing oversized clothes? You certainly must know that clothes that fit on your body correctly give you a sense of respect in our society. You certainly must also know that all the cool rappers who want to be "gangsta" wear oversized clothes. DEFINITELY knowing these two things, why do you wear these clothes like that? Please explain. If you say "Thats just how I am", I beg to differ that you invented the style. I really think you were influenced on something. I don't think society will change their mind about the connotations that come with jerseys that hang off of people to their knees, along with someone wearing two hats at once. TWO. HATS. AT. ONCE. (both sideways in different directions..) How this is cool to anyone is beyond me.

Anyway, "rap" is another subject. Listen to the lyrics in "Rap", theyre nearly all about illegal activity. And doing it for the sake of looking cool. Hip-hop, and good hip-hop is another story. Hell, I listen to NWA, Eazy E, KRS-One, Beastie Boys, and DeLaSoul a decent amount of the time, but I know that if I wear baggy clothes and talk like I'm uneducated, then I will be seen differently. To say that I SHOULDN'T be seen differently is a pipe dream and an excuse to act immautre.

If you use Ebonics, that means you know a full word but choose to shorten it without any reason. Or in some cases lengthen it, for shizzle. I'm SURE you also know what kind of a reputation using ebonics gets you. Might get you a pretty cool reputation with some fools, but with anyone professional or logical, probably a mediocre one.

I'm not actually including the history of ebonics, or rap (and its downfall), or the history of wearing baggy clothing, but I'm sure if I did or if you looked it up yourself, you could see why doing these things can make everyone think you're ghetto. If You didn't know these things might make you look like you come from a ghetto, maybe you're the one who needs to pick up a book about ghettos.

I have no problem with you, I'm just telling you THAT'S why.




Never say "yinz". One day you may be tempted to, but never do it. Only if you're making fun of someone. I'd say people who say "yinz" are worse than people from a ghetto, "yinz" is a really trashy word.

I congratulate you on not saying "yinz", but I take it back because you said you use ebonics- which is nearly the same thing

Hmm lets see. Ok, for starters for me wearing baggy clothes and using Ebonics makes me appear ghetto then so be it. I will not change the way I dress or talk to avoid the ghetto tag. This indeed is the way I feel comfortable dressing. I am in hospital scrubs all day so I dress down. I just love it when I person don't squat about me but, will judge me to the T cause of the way I dress or talk. Is right for me to say that people who wear flannel shirts and race jackets rednecks? Oh, yes I admit it my clothing is influenced by what see but, doesn't everyone see something and say I want that coat? I just sit back and laugh at folks that use any excuse to call my swag (style) ghetto. Where exactly in the dictionary does it describe a person wearing baggy clothes and listening to rap music ghetto? Now for rap music I admit it is very questionable but, honestly what isn't. The things that half the rappers do rap about are things so many can rap about. It's not always b***** and ****.

[mr.davon24]

Originally Posted by saturdayskids

Using ebonics and wearing oversized clothes and listening to rap are all signs of someone who lives in, or wants to live in a Ghetto. It's certainly possible to do these three things and NOT live in a ghetto or WANT to, but why are you doing it?

Why are you wearing oversized clothes? You certainly must know that clothes that fit on your body correctly give you a sense of respect in our society. You certainly must also know that all the cool rappers who want to be "gangsta" wear oversized clothes. DEFINITELY knowing these two things, why do you wear these clothes like that? Please explain. If you say "Thats just how I am", I beg to differ that you invented the style. I really think you were influenced on something. I don't think society will change their mind about the connotations that come with jerseys that hang off of people to their knees, along with someone wearing two hats at once. TWO. HATS. AT. ONCE. (both sideways in different directions..) How this is cool to anyone is beyond me.

Anyway, "rap" is another subject. Listen to the lyrics in "Rap", theyre nearly all about illegal activity. And doing it for the sake of looking cool. Hip-hop, and good hip-hop is another story. Hell, I listen to NWA, Eazy E, KRS-One, Beastie Boys, and DeLaSoul a decent amount of the time, but I know that if I wear baggy clothes and talk like I'm uneducated, then I will be seen differently. To say that I SHOULDN'T be seen differently is a pipe dream and an excuse to act immautre.

If you use Ebonics, that means you know a full word but choose to shorten it without any reason. Or in some cases lengthen it, for shizzle. I'm SURE you also know what kind of a reputation using ebonics gets you. Might get you a pretty cool reputation with some fools, but with anyone professional or logical, probably a mediocre one.

I'm not actually including the history of ebonics, or rap (and its downfall), or the history of wearing baggy clothing, but I'm sure if I did or if you looked it up yourself, you could see why doing these things can make everyone think you're ghetto. If You didn't know these things might make you look like you come from a ghetto, maybe you're the one who needs to pick up a book about ghettos.

I have no problem with you, I'm just telling you THAT'S why.




Never say "yinz". One day you may be tempted to, but never do it. Only if you're making fun of someone. I'd say people who say "yinz" are worse than people from a ghetto, "yinz" is a really trashy word.

I congratulate you on not saying "yinz", but I take it back because you said you use ebonics- which is nearly the same thing

You're talking about eazy and nwa. Lose guys was protesting against the unjust system blacks was still facing back in the early 90s. I really see where listening to there music makes anyone sound uneducated. I could say the same thing about rock and heavy metal. My advise for you look outside the music and the baggy clothes. It's all elementary DON'T JUDGE A BOOK BY IT'S COVER.

[saturdayskids]

Originally Posted by mr.davon24

Hmm lets see. Ok, for starters for me wearing baggy clothes and using Ebonics makes me appear ghetto then so be it. I will not change the way I dress or talk to avoid the ghetto tag. This indeed is the way I feel comfortable dressing. I am in hospital scrubs all day so I dress down. I just love it when I person don't squat about me but, will judge me to the T cause of the way I dress or talk. Is right for me to say that people who wear flannel shirts and race jackets rednecks? Oh, yes I admit it my clothing is influenced by what see but, doesn't everyone see something and say I want that coat? I just sit back and laugh at folks that use any excuse to call my swag (style) ghetto. Where exactly in the dictionary does it describe a person wearing baggy clothes and listening to rap music ghetto? Now for rap music I admit it is very questionable but, honestly what isn't. The things that half the rappers do rap about are things so many can rap about. It's not always b***** and ****.

I still don't think you read my post. It's because you do all three. Also, I thought you just said that someone should pick up a dictionary about ghettos or something. Now you're saying that theres no where in the dictionary they could look? That was mean of you man.

Secondly, no it's not cool to call someone in a flannel shirt a redneck. I wouldn't call someone in baggy clothes someone acting ghetto. BUT if you saw someone talking with a southern twang, a flannel shirt, and listening to country/going to country music festivals a redneck, that would be understandable. Just like if you saw someone listening to rap, dressed in oversized clothes and talking in ebonics, if you called them ghetto it would be understandable. It's just the same, quit being overemotional about it.

[saturdayskids]

Originally Posted by mr.davon24

You're talking about eazy and nwa. Lose guys was protesting against the unjust system black was still facing back in the early 90s. I really see where listening to there music makes anyone sound uneducated. I could say the same thing about rock and heavy metal. My advise for you look outside the music and the baggy clothes. It's all elementary DON'T JUDGE A BOOK BY IT'S COLOR.

No I'm saying that I like those bands. Sorry, I worded it poorly. I'm saying I like those bands and I know that since I like them, if I listen to them and ONLY them and bands that sound like them, and I ALSO dress and act a certain way, I will be perceived as something that I don't like. But fortunately, I don't think dressing like a thug is cool, nor do I think speaking like a dummy is cool.

[mr.davon24]

Originally Posted by saturdayskids

Using ebonics and wearing oversized clothes and listening to rap are all signs of someone who lives in, or wants to live in a Ghetto. It's certainly possible to do these three things and NOT live in a ghetto or WANT to, but why are you doing it?

Why are you wearing oversized clothes? You certainly must know that clothes that fit on your body correctly give you a sense of respect in our society. You certainly must also know that all the cool rappers who want to be "gangsta" wear oversized clothes. DEFINITELY knowing these two things, why do you wear these clothes like that? Please explain. If you say "Thats just how I am", I beg to differ that you invented the style. I really think you were influenced on something. I don't think society will change their mind about the connotations that come with jerseys that hang off of people to their knees, along with someone wearing two hats at once. TWO. HATS. AT. ONCE. (both sideways in different directions..) How this is cool to anyone is beyond me.

Anyway, "rap" is another subject. Listen to the lyrics in "Rap", theyre nearly all about illegal activity. And doing it for the sake of looking cool. Hip-hop, and good hip-hop is another story. Hell, I listen to NWA, Eazy E, KRS-One, Beastie Boys, and DeLaSoul a decent amount of the time, but I know that if I wear baggy clothes and talk like I'm uneducated, then I will be seen differently. To say that I SHOULDN'T be seen differently is a pipe dream and an excuse to act immautre.

If you use Ebonics, that means you know a full word but choose to shorten it without any reason. Or in some cases lengthen it, for shizzle. I'm SURE you also know what kind of a reputation using ebonics gets you. Might get you a pretty cool reputation with some fools, but with anyone professional or logical, probably a mediocre one.

I'm not actually including the history of ebonics, or rap (and its downfall), or the history of wearing baggy clothing, but I'm sure if I did or if you looked it up yourself, you could see why doing these things can make everyone think you're ghetto. If You didn't know these things might make you look like you come from a ghetto, maybe you're the one who needs to pick up a book about ghettos.

I have no problem with you, I'm just telling you THAT'S why.




Never say "yinz". One day you may be tempted to, but never do it. Only if you're making fun of someone. I'd say people who say "yinz" are worse than people from a ghetto, "yinz" is a really trashy word.

I congratulate you on not saying "yinz", but I take it back because you said you use ebonics- which is nearly the same thing

Originally Posted by saturdayskids

I still don't think you read my post. It's because you do all three. Also, I thought you just said that someone should pick up a dictionary about ghettos or something. Now you're saying that theres no where in the dictionary they could look? That was mean of you man.

Secondly, no it's not cool to call someone in a flannel shirt a redneck. I wouldn't call someone in baggy clothes someone acting ghetto. BUT if you saw someone talking with a southern twang, a flannel shirt, and listening to country/going to country music festivals a redneck, that would be understandable. Just like if you saw someone listening to rap, dressed in oversized clothes and talking in ebonics, if you called them ghetto it would be understandable. It's just the same, quit being overemotional about it.

No, I read your post in it's entirety. You said that if a person that dress in baggy clothes and listen to rap constitutes the ghetto tag. Right? In return I said I do listen to rap and wear my baggy jeans and wear a shirt to conceal my stomach. I was asking you where does it say all the above in a dictionary in reference to being ghetto???? I can't see exactly where I am being over emotional about the situation either. As I said before regardless of how you view me and my Ebonics talking self does not make me lose any sleep. I was just wondering how one may associate ghetto with listening to rap music and wearing or sized close. Maybe your a bit older or lived in a town were everyone has the same things in their walk-ins but, different here playa. People are entitled to their own views I just wanted to shed some light on this foolishness.

[mr.davon24]

Originally Posted by saturdayskids

No I'm saying that I like those bands. Sorry, I worded it poorly. I'm saying I like those bands and I know that since I like them, if I listen to them and ONLY them and bands that sound like them, and I ALSO dress and act a certain way, I will be perceived as something that I don't like. But fortunately, I don't think dressing like a thug is cool, nor do I think speaking like a dummy is cool.

Man you are killing me with this man lol.....

So now I dress like a thug? I wear button down shirt with a collar that isn't tight fitted; am I considered a thug? Since I don't choose to use my college education ( Yeah I have one of those things ) does that make me Ghetto?

[saturdayskids]

Why would you get a college education then talk ebonics? That doesn't make any sense.


Also, I'm younger than you.


And- would you call a man who is wearing flannel, sporting a mullet and goatee, speaking with a southern twang, and listening to country music- would you call this man a redneck? (be honest)


Edit: You're being over-emotional because you know what people think about loosefitting clothes and multiple sideways hats and shorts that go under your butt and to your shins, and you know what people think about ebonics, and you know what people think about when they see those two things combined with rap music, but you willingly use ebonics with a college education, and you dress like that because you saw it on MTV or BET or in "tha hood" or something and you must think its cool, and you listen to a little bit of rap. So you, with your college education, can't figure out why people might think you're ghetto? I think freaking out about what people think about you is being over-emotional and forgetting common sense here.

If I had a mullet, wore such clothing and liked such country music, would I be SURPRISED to be called a redneck? Or would I be surprised to be called a hillbilly? No. No, I wouldn't. And if I was called a hillbilly and I didn't like it, I would get the point instead of blaming everyone except me, because that's IMMATURE. I'd get a haircut and change my outfit but still listen to country. And after a week of people treating me better, I would start liking those clothes.

If I dressed up really well everyday and listened to classical music and grew a handlebar mustache and people started calling me a douchebag, I think I would be able to figure out the problem, and change myself accordingly so I feel comfortable in society.

I wouldn't blame everyone except me. Sorry, sir.

[saturdayskids]

Also- I think I know more about the history or hip-hop, graffiti and breakdancing- WAY more than you do, so if you want to pull some of this "u r better than me because u r a different culture" bull****, feel free.

And don't ignore the post previous to this just because you're going to throw a fit because I said this^

[mr.davon24]

Originally Posted by saturdayskids

Why would you get a college education then talk ebonics? That doesn't make any sense.


Also, I'm younger than you.


And- would you call a man who is wearing flannel, sporting a mullet and goatee, speaking with a southern twang, and listening to country music- would you call this man a redneck? (be honest)

First Question..... Put it this way how would you feel if you had a friend that was a engineer and all they did was talk math? You would possibly be intimidated that all your buddy talks about are his on going projects. I am basically in the same predicament being that most of my friends have regular jobs. These are my childhood friends so we can use whatever twang we want. It's not like I am with my Dr. buddies talking about patient that came in the office today.

2nd question. As unbelievable as it may sound I've never in my 24 years called anybody a redneck because of their attire or for any other reason.

Can I ask you where do you live?

[mr.davon24]

Originally Posted by saturdayskids

Also- I think I know more about the history or hip-hop, graffiti and breakdancing- WAY more than you do, so if you want to pull some of this "u r better than me because u r a different culture" bull****, feel free.

And don't ignore the post previous to this just because you're going to throw a fit because I said this^

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I am not here to dispute that you may no more about rap music because of my culture. I listen to other music to Saturday. I know quite a lil bit about hip hop but, not all.As I said before I could careless what you are anyone else think about my clothes or taste of music. Those to object does not make me who I am. Now, I am wearing something because I see it on MTV or BET? I stopped watching Bet every since they lost Free and A.J. ( they where host on the show) MTV I've haven't watched in ages. I believe in myself as not being a follower.