brentwood pa -- diversity/population? (Pittsburgh, Penn Hills: section 8, renting, crime)

[lifepgh2op]

Originally Posted by mr.davon24

Victoria Switzer, a retired social studies teacher, was on phone-bank duty one night during the Pennsylvania primary campaign. One night was all she could take: "It wasn't pretty." She made 60 calls to prospective voters in Susquehanna County, her home county, which is 98 percent white. The responses were dispiriting. One caller, Switzer remembers, said he couldn't possibly vote for Obama and concluded: "Hang that darky from a tree!"

Documentary filmmaker Rory Kennedy, the daughter of the late Robert F. Kennedy, said she, too, came across "a lot of racism" when campaigning for Obama in Pennsylvania. One Pittsburgh union organizer told her he would not vote for Obama because he is black, and a white voter, she said, offered this frank reason for not backing Obama: "White people look out for white people, and black people look out for black people."

That's sad...it really really is. I cannot wait until he wins. This country needs a change.

[Pitts10yrs]

Not meaning to be racist but opinions form from observations and experience. I am educated, and so believe myself to be free thinking. With that being said, I live on a street that is predominately white, except for three black families. One, black male lived across the street and he constantly fought with his, what I believe to be his girlfriend. It was very serious, swearing, screaming, and at one point she ran to the neighbor for help. The other two families lived further down the street and from what I hear of neighbors they are up all hours of the night, and the police have been down there quite a few times. The is a quiet place, but I can understand the aprehension and the strong aversive feelings whites have for blacks. This extreme behavior is often too much to deal with and to common.

[Staash]

Originally Posted by mr.davon24

Documentary filmmaker Rory Kennedy, the daughter of the late Robert F. Kennedy, said she, too, came across "a lot of racism" when campaigning for Obama in Pennsylvania. One Pittsburgh union organizer told her he would not vote for Obama because he is black, and a white voter, she said, offered this frank reason for not backing Obama: "White people look out for white people, and black people look out for black people."

Alternatively, "a lot of racism" could just be a convenient excuse to explain why Obama lost this state to Hillary. If Obama loses it in the general election, I'm sure we'll hear the same accusation again, regardless of its veracity.

[Staash]

Originally Posted by awegrzyn

First. DIVERSE community is socialistic magic word for: community turning bad.

I think you mean "vibrant".

[zip95]

Originally Posted by Pitts10yrs

Not meaning to be racist but opinions form from observations and experience. I am educated, and so believe myself to be free thinking. With that being said, I live on a street that is predominately white, except for three black families. One, black male lived across the street and he constantly fought with his, what I believe to be his girlfriend. It was very serious, swearing, screaming, and at one point she ran to the neighbor for help. The other two families lived further down the street and from what I hear of neighbors they are up all hours of the night, and the police have been down there quite a few times. The is a quiet place, but I can understand the aprehension and the strong aversive feelings whites have for blacks. This extreme behavior is often too much to deal with and to common.

That's because you grew up out in the country, and the bulk of your upbringing was with white country folk. So it's only natural for you to stereotype people you don't understand. I'm not justifying crude behaviour, I'm just wondering if when Billie-Bob gets drunk, does some meth, and beats his wife 3 times a week.....do you also develop "strong aversive " feelings for white people?

Anyway, I read back through your posts and it seems that you are a white guy, who 90% of the time, is posting about black people.......so I'm thinking that you may be the one with the problem. Maybe this obsession of yours and those "strong aversive " feelings stem from something else......just a thought.

And finally, capitalism is pretty good at judging your worth to society as a whole. So if those "aversive" people live in your neighborhood.....than maybe that says something about you....just another thought.

[Staash]

Originally Posted by zip95

And finally, capitalism is pretty good at judging your worth to society as a whole.

Interesting.

[desibhar]

Originally Posted by zip95

That's because you grew up out in the country, and the bulk of your upbringing was with white country folk. So it's only natural for you to stereotype people you don't understand. I'm not justifying crude behaviour, I'm just wondering if when Billie-Bob gets drunk, does some meth, and beats his wife 3 times a week.....do you also develop "strong aversive " feelings for white people?

Anyway, I read back through your posts and it seems that you are a white guy, who 90% of the time, is posting about black people.......so I'm thinking that you may be the one with the problem. Maybe this obsession of yours and those "strong aversive " feelings stem from something else......just a thought.

And finally, capitalism is pretty good at judging your worth to society as a whole. So if those "aversive" people live in your neighborhood.....than maybe that says something about you....just another thought.

I totally agree with this. People forget that there is a lot of white trash out there, and being a non-black minority, I fear some of them also.

I try to give people the benefit of the doubt, but if they confirm my suspicion about being violent or show erratic behaviour, regardless of what race they are, I stay away. Its not about color, its about behaviour. I have to say that every race of people has bad seeds, and you just can't rely on stereotypes to keep you safe.

[mr.davon24]

Originally Posted by Pitts10yrs

Not meaning to be racist but opinions form from observations and experience. I am educated, and so believe myself to be free thinking. With that being said, I live on a street that is predominately white, except for three black families. One, black male lived across the street and he constantly fought with his, what I believe to be his girlfriend. It was very serious, swearing, screaming, and at one point she ran to the neighbor for help. The other two families lived further down the street and from what I hear of neighbors they are up all hours of the night, and the police have been down there quite a few times. The is a quiet place, but I can understand the aprehension and the strong aversive feelings whites have for blacks. This extreme behavior is often too much to deal with and to common.

Hey pitt just because those two families please don't pass judgement on the rest of us. Don't get me wrong there has been time when I went off the deep in, in arguement not phyiscal though. I see white women all the time that are selling their bodies for a white rock we call crack. Is it right to say all white women ar the same? All my white buddies disrespect the hell out their parents. Does it make it right for me to say that about all white males? I have respect for everyone white, black, brown, and green. I've caught myself using the same stereotypes. I figured that everyone is entitled to respect. This plus me growing up with different races.

Staash do something with yourself, huff paint or something.

[IAmAngieBowie]

Originally Posted by mr.davon24

I see white women all the time that are selling their bodies for a white rock we call crack.

No kidding. Go out to the Point Breeze/Wilkinsburg border sometime...last time I was out, it was all scabby white women shaking their asses for meth or crack or something equally vile and stupid-making.

To the original poster: You want diversity and open-mindedness, you're gonna fare best living in the actual city. Shadyside, Friendship, East Liberty, Highland Park, Morningside, (the good part of) Point Breeze and Squirrel Hill are all great for you. I've generally found that racial struggles are borne of class, and the most progressive, socially-climbing part of Pittsburgh is the East End neighborhoods. Poor whites and poor blacks in Pittsburgh hate one another because they're fighting over limited resources. Go to North Philly or Mott Haven Bronx or whatever, it's the same stupid story. This country has a lot of racial healing to do.

You don't want to live in the South Hills, trust me. It will get old to drive everywhere and if the plans to redevelop 51 take off, the construction will be a pain in the ass. Your kid will have a better time in one of those city neighborhoods.

[ckhthankgod]

Does the Pittsburgh area have any "diverse" suburban areas? I would think there are some.