Man complains about decline of old neighborhood, lives in Cranberry (Pittsburgh: violent crime, shopping centers)

[norcider]

Originally Posted by Merge

Wow, what a lot of bluster. What's really funny is that there is likely some crusty old man who grew up in Cranberry Township, preparing to write a letter to the Cranberry Eagle complaining about how the invasive hordes of transplants from other places are mucking up the area with their SUVs and traffic congestion and their road rage and sprawl and their strip malls and soccer moms... and meanwhile all he can do is tear up at the memory of swimming in the local watering hole, and running bucolically through the cornfields as a young lad.

Times change. There's no guarantee that the place you live is going to retain the qualities you chose it for. You can spend your time lamenting the past, or you can engage wherever you are in the present.

That's pretty good, I'm sure there's another side to the coin. Not entirely sure if it's located in Cranberry or Warrendale, but a housing development was supposed to have been built in an area where Paleo Indian mounds were located. The mounds have been found all over Western PA, if this is true it's terrible.

[erieguy]

Originally Posted by norcider

That's pretty good, I'm sure there's another side to the coin. Not entirely sure if it's located in Cranberry or Warrendale, but a housing development was supposed to have been built in an area where Paleo Indian mounds were located. The mounds have been found all over Western PA, if this is true it's terrible.

Everyone that has a problem with the sprawl should buy the property they don't want to see changed. Everyone has a right to buy it.

[steindle]

Originally Posted by tclifton

Sorry, if you're too obtuse to follow what you wrote, there's not much else I can do for you.

You are objectively wrong. There is literally no argument about this. He was comparing the potential for crime in Homewood to the potential for road traffic injury in Cranberry. There was no reference to crime in Cranberry, whatsoever, at any point. You are indisputably wrong.

[tclifton]

Originally Posted by steindle

You are objectively wrong. There is literally no argument about this. He was comparing the potential for crime in Homewood to the potential for road traffic injury in Cranberry. There was no reference to crime in Cranberry, whatsoever, at any point. You are indisputably wrong.

Really?

this isn't him comparing personal safety in Homewood to Cranberry?

I don't even know where to begin with this one. Are you suggesting if you place me on Brushton Ave at 12AM Friday I'm going to witness crime or be the victim of one? If you think this you just may have too active of an imagination. "Hey, look at that lost white man, let's relieve him of some of his belongings". You are aware that the presence of adult white males in black neighborhoods causes the impression that under cover cops are afoot, right? Especially late at night. Now, if I were to walk a poorly lit stretch of some Cranberry road late at night, there would be a chance I'd be struck by a speeding car because there is no sidewalk. I'll take my chances on Brushton.

[eschaton]

As I see it, he was just saying he thinks the chance of being the victim of a random crime in Homewood is not high enough for him to be worried to go there.

I think the crack about getting killed by a driver in Cranberry was just meant to provoke people into thinking what "safety" really is. Nowhere did he say Homewood was safer than Cranberry, he just said that he'd personally feel safer in Homewood.

[steindle]

Originally Posted by tclifton

Really?

this isn't him comparing personal safety in Homewood to Cranberry?

Hmmm, pretty good attempt to obfuscate your original accusation, but here is what you actually said:

If you think that Cranberry has more crime than Homewood Brushto, you're living in a fantasy world.

Yes, it is him comparing personal safety in Homewood to Cranberry -- using two different measures. But that's not what you said. You said that he compared crime. And he clearly did not.

[charisb]

Originally Posted by eschaton

As I see it, he was just saying he thinks the chance of being the victim of a random crime in Homewood is not high enough for him to be worried to go there.

I think the crack about getting killed by a driver in Cranberry was just meant to provoke people into thinking what "safety" really is. Nowhere did he say Homewood was safer than Cranberry, he just said that he'd personally feel safer in Homewood.

This type of reasonableness has no business on this thread.

[Uptown kid]

Originally Posted by Merge

Wow, what a lot of bluster. What's really funny is that there is likely some crusty old man who grew up in Cranberry Township, preparing to write a letter to the Cranberry Eagle complaining about how the invasive hordes of transplants from other places are mucking up the area with their SUVs and traffic congestion and their road rage and sprawl and their strip malls and soccer moms... and meanwhile all he can do is tear up at the memory of swimming in the local watering hole, and running bucolically through the cornfields as a young lad.

Times change. There's no guarantee that the place you live is going to retain the qualities you chose it for. You can spend your time lamenting the past, or you can engage wherever you are in the present.

Isn't he from Marshall-Shadeland & moved to Cranberry? I mean Horrance Man & Shadeland Avenue were in the article & he alluded to Young Field & Washburn Square Park right?

[Merge]

Originally Posted by Uptown kid

Isn't he from Marshall-Shadeland & moved to Cranberry? I mean Horrance Man & Shadeland Avenue were in the article & he alluded to Young Field & Washburn Square Park right?

Yes.

[that412]

Originally Posted by Uptown kid

Isn't he from Marshall-Shadeland & moved to Cranberry? I mean Horrance Man & Shadeland Avenue were in the article & he alluded to Young Field & Washburn Square Park right?

I think Merge is imagining that a totally different person is crankily complaining about how Cranberry "used to be" to make the point that everywhere changes over time and nostalgia makes fools of us all.