Is anyone else outraged by this Daniel Montano saga -- Pittsburgh's biggest graffiti vandal? (Penn: price, law)

[Sheradenmom]

Originally Posted by Spacegirl

I just know for a fact that a lot of the people in Lawrenceville are racist and have issues with Danny because he is hispanic. There is one man in specific who is a Nazi that targets Danny and says terrible things about him. You may think his graffiti is crap, and I disagree, but there is no way you could call his canvas paintings crap. Hes won dozens of awards for his artwork in San Francisco. I'm done with you guys and am not going to waste my time defending my boyfriend, whom none of you know. "YINZ" are brainless morons that probably never made it past high school, and your just jealous that Danny is going to do well in life because you all probably pray everynight that he spends the rest of his life in jail. DREAM ON SILLY RABBIT TRICKS ARE FOR KIDS.

Spacegirl,
First, let me say you chose your name well. Come back to reality. I know many people in Lawrenceville who are not racist, and for you to make unfounded claims is ridiculous. Those people, like most of us, had no idea that Danny was hispanic. But then, we weren't looking for a reason to be angry, we had a right because he was defacing public and private property illegally. Perhaps the "Nazi" you refer to targets Danny because Danny is breaking the law. You can call his graffitti art but if it is located on property that is not his property, it is a criminal act. You see, individual rights only carry to the point where they do not infringe on the rights of others. Call the ACLU, they can explain it to you. Simply put, Danny has the right to paint on whatever canvas he chooses and call it art. He can paint on whatever building he owns and call it art. What he can not do is to paint on mine or anyone elses property. That is called criminal activity. You do not have to defend his talent, just keep his art on property that he has purchased. Tagging is, as your boyfriend has found out, a criminal offense, punishable by law. And so now that he is held accountable for his criminal activities the rest of the world is either racist or stupid. As far as us all being "brainless idiots who did not graduate high school", I have a college degree and graduated magna *** laude, so I am not uneducated and resent your childish name calling. As far as praying that Danny spend the rest of his life in jail, that would require me to actually think about him and his activities. I have read about him, voiced my opinion, agree with the criminal justice system that what he did was wrong and hope that he is fined so that he sees the error he has made and uses his artistic abilities in less destructive ways. Other than that, I don't give him a second thought. Neither he nor you are important in my life. I don't know either of you personally and I prefer to spend my time and my thoughts to come up with ways to make our city better and a more desirable place to live. You see, I believe that if you are not part of a solution, you are part of the problem. Perhaps when you have invested a little more of your time and resources into society, you will understand.

[hnsq]

Originally Posted by skrazzle

uh no. that would be ridiculous. Have you seen his Graffiti? It is not some punk kid who spray paints his name all sloppy. This is urban art. It is apart of the city.

In KC, i'm sad anytime they cover up graffiti artist, many people are happy to have their buildings become a piece of art.

Is it stil wrong and illegal? Yes... so if the place doesn't want it he should be in trouble, but anything more then a slap on the wrist would be ridiculous.

Pittsburgh Graffiti - a set on Flickr

You can see the few that are low quality, and the ones that are REAL art. The city should be proud of those ones.

Tho for anyone interested:

Flickr: Search

Our Graffiti artist are better =P

But you still need to have respect for other people. Even if something is aesthetically pleasing, graffiti artists show an inherant lack of respect for others (in my opinion at least).

[gallacus]

uh no. that would be ridiculous. Have you seen his Graffiti? It is not some punk kid who spray paints his name all sloppy. This is urban art. It is apart of the city...

...You can see the few that are low quality, and the ones that are REAL art. The city should be proud of those ones.

I'm sorry, there is absolutely, positively no excuse whatsoever to spray-painting crap all over people's property. NONE. WHATSOEVER.

[zip95]

This is one of the most ridiclous threads I have ever read.

Let me catch some one attempting to deface my personal property that has been paid for by my blood, sweat, and tears.....

I don't care if it's Picasso back from the dead

[skrazzle]

Originally Posted by gallacus

I'm sorry, there is absolutely, positively no excuse whatsoever to spray-painting crap all over people's property. NONE. WHATSOEVER.

I understand people talking about not wanting their property to have graffiti on it. However many people PAY others to do it. I would personally be happy if I owned a building downtown and someone put good art on it. It's part of the city in my opinion.

A brick building downtown is not the same as someones house.

They should get peoples permission first, and if someone is upset they should be punished, but jail for something like that would ridiculous. Make them pay for removal or clean up I don't know, but find a reasonable punishment.

[PeterRabbit]

Graffiti/defacing property is a classless act done by the lowest life scum derelicts of society who deserve severe penalties including imprisonment. That isn't likely to happen because the jails are overcrowded. So they should just chop their fingers off.

[mckeesport_alum]

Originally Posted by skrazzle

I understand people talking about not wanting their property to have graffiti on it. However many people PAY others to do it. I would personally be happy if I owned a building downtown and someone put good art on it. It's part of the city in my opinion.

A brick building downtown is not the same as someones house.

They should get peoples permission first, and if someone is upset they should be punished, but jail for something like that would ridiculous. Make them pay for removal or clean up I don't know, but find a reasonable punishment.

But if they had to get permission most of them wouldn't do it. Part of them enjoys going against authority and/or enjoy the risk/rush of getting caught. Otherwise they would paint paintings.

[Dylan Solomon]

well hope everyones happy now that the child molesters and rapists get 1/2 time as much as a graffiti writer!

[mr.davon24]

Originally Posted by Windwalker

I like the way you think, Daniel. I am a homeowner who takes pride in her home and neighborhood, and I hate tagging, too. It's disrespectful.

But I don't see why the city doesn't make him paint murals for the city (good ones approved by a committee, based on his own designs). And give those whose property he vandalized some of his art as restitution in addition to making him repaint all the property he vandalized.

Some of these folks are real artists. So why not put all this talent to work for us instead of wasting all our money on legal and jail costs? Real restoration will require folks getting to know and respect one another once again. And most of us don't want to take the time (or can't because of economics) to do just that.

Although I don't own my house. This seems like a very good Idea.

[mr.davon24]

Originally Posted by Dylan Solomon

well hope everyones happy now that the child molesters and rapists get 1/2 time as much as a graffiti writer!

Isn't that a shame..
I've saying this since I could remember. How could these **** heads get away with stuff like this? Throw a dumb *** kid away for spray painting 3-6yrs why? Make him paint bridges or something.