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Old 08-20-2015, 06:07 PM
 
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I would be shocked if this is anything other than low rise. It's probably going to be a collection of 4 story buildings. Maybe slightly taller...
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Old 08-20-2015, 06:36 PM
 
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700 parking spaces? Way too many! cut back the parking.
I don't think it is too many. It would be deck parking that would serve not only residents, but would be centrally located for shopping, dining, or bar hopping with a designated driver. It would not be a sea of parking. Maybe it would have a 175 spaces per level for a four deck garage.
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Old 08-20-2015, 06:56 PM
 
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700 parking spaces? Way too many! cut back the parking.
There are 650 apartments, 700 spaces seems to be too few. Probably need a thousand spaces.


These are going to be expensive apartments, the affluent people that will be living there will undoubtably almost all have vehicles.
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Old 08-20-2015, 09:10 PM
 
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Yea, good luck with that. Hopefully if it comes to fruition then the city will finally lengthen the left hand arrow from 40th to Butler Street. I've sent five requests to 311 about this but it still languishes. The arrow lasts a whopping 6 seconds. Unreal.
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Old 08-20-2015, 09:11 PM
 
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There are 650 apartments, 700 spaces seems to be too few. Probably need a thousand spaces.


These are going to be expensive apartments, the affluent people that will be living there will undoubtably almost all have vehicles.
Seriously though, they need MORE spots. Everyone has a car. If two people are living in one of these apartments then there will be 2 cars per unit.
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Old 08-20-2015, 09:22 PM
 
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Seriously though, they need MORE spots. Everyone has a car. If two people are living in one of these apartments then there will be 2 cars per unit.
Affluent people own more cars, this isn't old-school Lawrenceville any more, especially with this kind of project.

When I came to L'ville in 07, I never had a problem with finding a place to park the car on the street. At that point in time, it was mostly senior citizens and welfare recipients- people with fewer cars per household. They tell me that the new generation doesn't like cars like we used to. Ain't true, at least with those with the money to live over here. More cars than ever, and the population really hasn't increased.
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Old 08-20-2015, 09:24 PM
 
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Seriously though, they need MORE spots. Everyone has a car. If two people are living in one of these apartments then there will be 2 cars per unit.
I know a lot of people who live in Lawrenceville without a car. And certainly one car shared between two adults is plenty in Lawrenceville. There's direct bus service to Downtown, Oakland, Shadyside, East Liberty, Squirrel Hill, The Waterfront, the Northside, the Southside, Greenfield, Hazelwood... You can walk to the grocery store, the pub, the park, the trails...

Too much parking makes the development more costly and just encourages people to drive more. I don't know about you, but I want more affordable housing and less traffic.
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Old 08-20-2015, 09:51 PM
 
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Affluent people own more cars, this isn't old-school Lawrenceville any more, especially with this kind of project.

When I came to L'ville in 07, I never had a problem with finding a place to park the car on the street. At that point in time, it was mostly senior citizens and welfare recipients- people with fewer cars per household. They tell me that the new generation doesn't like cars like we used to. Ain't true, at least with those with the money to live over here. More cars than ever, and the population really hasn't increased.
Some people just pretend to be green, but they won't give up that gas guzzling SUV.
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Old 08-20-2015, 10:15 PM
 
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Some people just pretend to be green, but they won't give up that gas guzzling SUV.
A lot of people over here need cars. If their job is in the North Hills, or Cranberry, or out in New Ken or Breckenridge, its really impractical not to have a car. Not everyone works in town, and fewer will be working here in L'ville after they get rid of the industry on Willow and on the old arsenal property. I know that the McConway Torley foundry is in the crosshairs of the city, as well as the oil and gasoline facility near 57th St.


Less jobs right in the neighborhood means that those who work will have to get there.
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Old 08-21-2015, 06:59 AM
 
Location: Pittsburgh, PA (Morningside)
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City parking minimums are only one space per unit basically everywhere, meaning there are no legal requirements to put in more than 650 spaces for 650 units. Presumably the other 50 are for retail.

Given how much people will pay in Lawrenceville to rent alley houses with absolutely no parking, I'm sure that apartment units with only one dedicated parking space will sell well.
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