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Old 08-21-2015, 11:25 AM
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I really think that ANYTHING would be an improvement over that whole lot. That Rite Aid is... yeesh.
I have to agree. Goodness, that area looks like a total dump! Hope it is a nice brick classic style though. Maybe with a little green space. I always feel Lawrenceville could use a tree or two or something green for a little break of concrete. Even NYC has some green here and there.
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Old 08-21-2015, 01:58 PM
 
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more parking more parking, eh? sounds like an urban haven. lets keep building cities for cars and not people.... or how about add more units, less parking, improve transit. improve the street level retail presence in these projects. integrate them with the community. Don't get me wrong, I'm happy this is replacing a parking lot, but lets keep parking to the minimum.

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Old 08-21-2015, 02:04 PM
 
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more parking more parking, eh? sounds like an urban haven. lets keep building cities for cars and not people.... or how about add more units, less parking, improve transit. improve the street level retail presence in these projects. integrate them with the community.


It would be a tough task to find enough people who both can 1) afford the 1500-2500 a month rent that they will be charging, yet 2) don't own or lease their own ride
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Old 08-21-2015, 02:10 PM
 
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It would be a tough task to find enough people who both can 1) afford the 1500-2500 a month rent that they will be charging, yet 2) don't own or lease their own ride
or you could just realize that Pittsburgh is full of young progressive people who want to live a car-less or car-lite lifestyle and use public transit, walk, and live in an urban environment that doesn't cater to parking and parking lots and parking garages. I know plenty of people here in Chicago that can afford $2500 1 BR apartments who could easily afford a car but choose not to. They use public transit and walk/bike. If they need a car, there is zip car, cab, or uber. You can talk about how Pittsburgh isn't on this or that city's level yet when it comes to public transit, but you can start by making changes to the new built environment by focusing on people, retail, street integration and density. This isn't the suburbs. Those who want parking still have plenty of existing options for places to live. Pittsburgh is a blank canvas full of opportunity to create dense, urban environments in sites like this, and they have the young educated progressive population to do so.
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Old 08-21-2015, 02:15 PM
 
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or you could just realize that Pittsburgh is full of young progressive people who want to live a car-less or car-lite lifestyle and use public transit, walk, and live in an urban environment that doesn't cater to parking and parking lots and parking garages. I know plenty of people here in Chicago that can afford $2500 1 BR apartments who could easily afford a car but choose not to. They use public transit and walk/bike. If they need a car, there is zip car, cab, or uber. You can talk about how Pittsburgh isn't on this or that city's level yet when it comes to public transit, but you can start by making changes to the new built environment by focusing on people, retail, street integration and density. This isn't the suburbs. Those who want parking still have plenty of existing options for places to live. Pittsburgh is a blank canvas full of opportunity to create dense, urban environments in sites like this, and they have the young educated progressive population to do so.
So get the capital together and buy some land and build some. during that process you will be required to do a study which will show there is market demand for what you are building. if you can do it, others will too.
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Old 08-21-2015, 02:16 PM
 
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So get the capital together and buy some land and build some. during that process you will be required to do a study which will show there is market demand for what you are building. if you can do it, others will too.
so unless I can do this by myself, I can't have an opinion on it? ok
You know you are allowed to advocate for things, right?
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Old 08-21-2015, 02:18 PM
 
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or you could just realize that Pittsburgh is full of young progressive people who want to live a car-less or car-lite lifestyle and use public transit, walk, and live in an urban environment that doesn't cater to parking and parking lots and parking garages. .


I'm not convinced there are that many people as you describe out there, but then I don't need to be convinced, those investing in the property definitely need to.


I guess if it fails, it can be converted into a senior citizen or welfare recipient hirise. More of those folks don't have rides.
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Old 08-21-2015, 02:22 PM
 
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I'm not convinced there are that many people as you describe out there, but then I don't need to be convinced, those investing in the property definitely need to.


I guess if it fails, it can be converted into a senior citizen or welfare recipient hirise. More of those folks don't have rides.
you don't seem to be too familiar with the new Pittsburgh. This isn't 1970. I also suppose you don't realize that public transit isn't reserved for "senior citizens and welfare recipients". How ridiculous.

But go ahead and keep that mindset, it is pretty much what gives people a bad image of Pittsburgh


Hey look, the historic Albright Methodist Church in Shadyside might be demolished for a one story building with surface parking. But hey, it will have parking, so it's all good!

http://triblive.com/news/allegheny/8...#axzz3jO60BSIP

Edit: there will be a drive-thru too! yay for cars..how could one ever bear to get out of one and walk
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Old 08-21-2015, 04:02 PM
 
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you don't seem to be too familiar with the new Pittsburgh. This isn't 1970. I also suppose you don't realize that public transit isn't reserved for "senior citizens and welfare recipients". How ridiculous.

But go ahead and keep that mindset, it is pretty much what gives people a bad image of Pittsburgh



I didn't say that at all, I just am of the opinion that the vast majority of those who earn enough to pay a couple of thousand a month in rent have cars. That's why downtown developers of apartments pursued the idea of getting residents to the head of the waiting list for leases at downtown PPA garages.


I could be wrong.


There is an opportunity for someone to actually propose a no-parking apartment complex in L'ville. They haven't done it yet, but the opportunity is there.


I have a realistic view of Pittsburgh, the vast majority don't live in areas where cars aren't necessary.
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Old 08-21-2015, 04:23 PM
 
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I generally am opposed to large surface parking lots in core city neighborhoods. We should build more vertical parking garages that need not be eyesores aesthetically. Don't forget about the suburbanites who have been starting to frequent Lawrenceville just as they do South Side. A project like this can actually help the street wall and add retail if done correctly. Look at the 2500 block of East Carson. Those buildings blend in nicely with the 19th Century ones from the steelworker days.https://www.google.com/maps/@40.4277...p7RWbp_hsw!2e0

I'm not an architectural critic, I just know that it has good density and works in that location.
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