For those that play down the existence of gangs.......

[aveojohn]

Originally Posted by simetime

Avejohn, lets put it this way there are BARS that would try to give me grief if I walked in (Murrysville off of Rt 22) so if I decided to move into that neighborhood all hell would break loose. All that many of us can do is hold on to your property and hope that "white flight" reverses itself and the neighborhoods become more mixed such as the Hill will be in a few years.

I doubt very much you would not be accepted. I have been to many a bars considered "White bars" and have seen black men there, given no grief. on the other hand, I know of no Black bars in my area where I would be accepted, without being suspected of being a narc and possibly have my throat cut. Fact not fiction!

[Hopes]

This conversation reminds me of a Jewish friend who thought he couldn't move out of Squirrel Hill to the suburbs. He thought people would treat him differently because he was Jewish. He thought he would stand out like a sore thumb without his house decorated for Christmas. Meanwhile, most people living in the suburbs know that's absurd. Simetime's fears are just like my Jewish friend's fears---unfounded because they haven't ventured outside of their comfort zones. I have Jewish friends and black friends who live in the suburbs. They go anywhere they want, even into the bars. Hell didn't break loose.

[simetime]

Originally Posted by Hopes

This conversation reminds me of a Jewish friend who thought he couldn't move out of Squirrel Hill to the suburbs. He thought people would treat him differently because he was Jewish. He thought he would stand out like a sore thumb without his house decorated for Christmas. Meanwhile, most people living in the suburbs know that's absurd. Simetime's fears are just like my Jewish friend's fears---unfounded because they haven't ventured outside of their comfort zones. I have Jewish friends and black friends who live in the suburbs. They go anywhere they want, even into the bars. Hell didn't break loose.

Hopes, that was not a bad assumption of me unfortunately it's far from the truth. I'm a retired Air Force Veteran, meaning that I have traveled (and lived) in many parts of the country and out of it. I have no fear of living outside of my comfort zone many times over. I look at things as is, there are MANY places in Pa that do not welcome people who do not look like them. This observation includes store owners, landlords, and in some instances police officers. This is reality everyone is NOT welcomed everywhere.

[By~Tor]

Originally Posted by simetime

"..... that I have traveled (and lived) in many parts of the country and out of it. I have no fear of living outside of my comfort zone many times over. I look at things as is, there are MANY places in Pa that do not welcome people who do not look like them. This observation includes store owners, landlords, and in some instances police officers. This is reality everyone is NOT welcomed everywhere."

True 'Dat, but still and all, I . . . have lived in Dallas, Saint Louis, Chicago, New York City (Bronx AND Queens), downstate Illinois AND Pittsburgh . . . .and I also am used to living "outside my comfort zone" so to speak. . . but the reality I've experienced is that wherever you go, you have to learn to adapt to your new surroundings and CREATE a NEW Comfort Zone for yourself, based not on what you like and / or dislike, but on what the mores and traditions of your new community are... yes, one can always bring in their own traditional creature comforts like celebrations, foods and all that... but the ATTITUDE is what has to be adapted, from the get-go, or else the newcomer will never be fully accepted in ANY city or burgh around our nation.

People generally don't mind outsiders, just so long as they don't act like "outlanders".....

[Tiger Beer]

Just curious, what are some of the prominent names of some of the gangs in Pittsburgh?

[kiggis13]

Originally Posted by Tiger Beer

Just curious, what are some of the prominent names of some of the gangs in Pittsburgh?

I hear the Van Buren Boys are rapidly growing in the pgh metro area.

[mattm93]

Originally Posted by gallacus

Thanks to G.W. you can purchase semi-automatic weapons freely now.
USATODAY.com - Federal ban on assault weapons expires

Yeah but the criminals would still be able to get them. It doent matter if they are illegal or not. Putting a ban on firearms would only take guns out of law abiding citizens hands. More then half of the guns they use are illegal anyways.

[Copanut]

Originally Posted by kiggis13

I hear the Van Buren Boys are rapidly growing in the pgh metro area.

I thought it was the Van de Lay Boys.

[Herodotus]

Originally Posted by Tiger Beer

Just curious, what are some of the prominent names of some of the gangs in Pittsburgh?

There really aren't any large gangs anymore. While some still claim to be Crips and Bloods, the colors thing is largely played out. Most of the gang violence is between various smaller cliques. This is frequently inside a particular neighborhood, as opposed to the neighborhood vs neighborhood violence that ruled in the 90's, although that still occurs as well.

[kidrebel20002000]

Originally Posted by FrickParkMtBiker

Yeah I used to work with a guy who lives near Uniontown. Now I know for a fact that crime is high in Fayette County. I had to laugh one time when he mentioned about "gangs" in and around Uniontown. Same thing there, definitely trouble makers, but round them and bus them off to Gary Indiana for a day, and you would probably never see them again.

trust me im from the connellsville area which is like 5-10 miles from uniontown...there are street gangs...there are low level crips and bloods..some white supremecy groups....drugs, murders, etc. drive by's are common now...lots of armed robberies and home invasions...but mostly drive by's