For those that play down the existence of gangs....... (Pittsburgh: buying, live in)

[londonbarcelona]

Originally Posted by By~Tor

I just LOVE how race and subculture can bring out the best and the worst in people....

No, the answer is MUCH larger, and we have to look at gang violence and murder as a microcosm of a wholistic picture of what I'll call "Poor America"... I'm NOT saying we should coddle the criminals, but we also can't punish innocents just because they're poor and haven't been adequately exposed to Country Club-style living...

Like Oprah always says, "When you know better, you DO better!"

[aveojohn]

Originally Posted by londonbarcelona

Like Oprah always says, "When you know better, you DO better!"

Absolutely!!!

[aveojohn]

Originally Posted by simetime

Who should be arrested? If a white cop sees a black youth dressed in baggy slung low pants with a bandanna hanging out his pocket does that make him a gang banger or a wannabe? Would that same cop arrest a white kid dressed the same.....I don't think so.

Maybe I should have said "known gang members".The police know who they are and should hassle them every chance they get.If they know someones watching, they might not hang in the streets and cause so much trouble for the average Joe.

[mr.davon24]

Originally Posted by aveojohn

Maybe I should have said "known gang members".The police know who they are and should hassle them every chance they get.If they know someones watching, they might not hang in the streets and cause so much trouble for the average Joe.

AveJohn: That would be a good idea if all cops thought like that. I remember numerous times I've harrassed by the boys in the blue. To be honest I think they just stop all young African american males. I know in Homewood they had this so called rule ( rumor) of if there is more the one African American that gives them a reason to pull you over. I remember I dropped my friend of at his house. The cops waited unti I came back out ( I was in there for about two hours) and when I came back out he was still there. He ran my plates and everything.

[aveojohn]

Originally Posted by mr.davon24

AveJohn: That would be a good idea if all cops thought like that. I remember numerous times I've harrassed by the boys in the blue. To be honest I think they just stop all young African american males. I know in Homewood they had this so called rule ( rumor) of if there is more the one African American that gives them a reason to pull you over. I remember I dropped my friend of at his house. The cops waited unti I came back out ( I was in there for about two hours) and when I came back out he was still there. He ran my plates and everything.

When I was a young hippie,I was pulled over many times because of my long hair and my youth.I never thought much of it at the time ,but then again I'm not black.

[Dysiple23]

Originally Posted by MissShona

That "gang" list seems like it's 10+ years old. Not that I'm all that familiar with gang life here -- but most of the "bloods & crips" in McKeesport were put in jail for sure so...

(I actually have a cousin that lives in Crawford Village).

And where is Clairton on that list?

i kno the list seems like its str8 out the 90's but thats beckuz the gang culture in pittsburgh has been sort of passed down to the younger generation. the places that had gangs in 93 stil gat em, its just toned down. nd about clairton not being on the list, i didnt kno there were any gangs that far out from the city, but let me guess, are they crips

[Dysiple23]

Originally Posted by simetime

Oh, Incidentally, neither does the Hill (have gangs) this is not including SugarTop. When you hear shootings up on the Hill everyone assumes that it was someone from that area......Only to the untrained ear. 9 out of 10 times the victim and/or the aggressor are from somewhere else.

are u sure about that, because i ckuld take u 2 a few places on the hill and prove that there are gangs there.

[mr.davon24]

Originally Posted by Dysiple23

are u sure about that, because i ckuld take u 2 a few places on the hill and prove that there are gangs there.

Dysiple you guys both are right actually. When I lived up there some people that was killed was from different parts of the city. Everyone knows that The Hill was a known blood territory but, I didn't people dressed in all red are flagging. Don't know if they're still around but there was a so called gang called "da Talaban"

[simetime]

Hmmm, that would be interesting since I still live there and drive/walk through it everyday. What you may be refering to could be small groups of kids pertending to be gang bangers

[awm13]

For those who downplay...





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