Magyar Pittsburgh? (York, Penn: for sale, home, neighborhoods)

[By~Tor]

Hi! - - I have another thread going in here about the prospect of three families moving from NYC to Pittsburgh in 2008-09, but this one is geared more toward one subject:


What areas of Pittsburgh CITY and METRO areas are considered to have higher concentrations of Ethnic Hungarians?


Are these areas considered liveable areas or are they on the decline?


Are there many 1st & 2nd gen Hungarians or have they mostly been assimilated over the years already?


Thanks!

[guylocke]

By~Tor, I spoke to my dad who is a wealth of information on Pittsburgh, and he told me what I already new. Polish Hill and the immediate surrounding areas were home to a very large Polish and Eastern European population. Also, Pittsburgh has a "little Germany" too that was home to many Eastern Europeans, as well. My dad also knows there is a Hungarian Club in Pittsburgh somewhere, but cannot think of it. I tried doing some google searches but mostly came up empty handed.

[Katiana]

Originally Posted by By~Tor

Hi! - - I have another thread going in here about the prospect of three families moving from NYC to Pittsburgh in 2008-09, but this one is geared more toward one subject:


What areas of Pittsburgh CITY and METRO areas are considered to have higher concentrations of Ethnic Hungarians?

I don't live there any more, but when I did, it seems like the "ethnic" population was pretty well dispersed, in the suburbs anyway. I know there were and still are some ethnic neighborhoods in Pittsburgh. The South Side was once a very Polish and other eastern European area.

Are these areas considered liveable areas or are they on the decline?




Are there many 1st & 2nd gen Hungarians or have they mostly been assimilated over the years already?


Thanks!

My guess is the 2nd gen. has been mostly assimilated. I don't know how old you are. When I was growing up there in the 60s, most of my classmates were 2nd generation something. Most were assimilated. Some of our parents (now in their 80s and 90s, if alive, LOL) didn't want their kids dating "others", but as teens everywhere in every generation, we mostly didn't listen to them. There has been a lot of inter-marriage over the decades. That said, there may well be some places where a lot of new residents from Hungary live.

[By~Tor]

Originally Posted by guylocke

By~Tor, I spoke to my dad who is a wealth of information on Pittsburgh, and he told me what I already new. Polish Hill and the immediate surrounding areas were home to a very large Polish and Eastern European population. Also, Pittsburgh has a "little Germany" too that was home to many Eastern Europeans, as well. My dad also knows there is a Hungarian Club in Pittsburgh somewhere, but cannot think of it. I tried doing some google searches but mostly came up empty handed.

Thanks alot, Guy! - - Someone posted a Hungarian-Pittsburgh link in the other thread, and I've referred my gal's sister to show that to her Mom (who is doing the research on their end)...

[By~Tor]

Originally Posted by Katiana

My guess is the 2nd gen. has been mostly assimilated. I don't know how old you are. When I was growing up there in the 60s, most of my classmates were 2nd generation something. Most were assimilated. Some of our parents (now in their 80s and 90s, if alive, LOL) didn't want their kids dating "others", but as teens everywhere in every generation, we mostly didn't listen to them. There has been a lot of inter-marriage over the decades. That said, there may well be some places where a lot of new residents from Hungary live.

Well, I'm not hungarian myself (I'm actually Irish / Texan...), but my gal's family is, and they came to NY shortly after the 1956 revolution over there, and New York is really all they've ever known. They're getting up in years, and so even though we're all pretty resigned on moving to Pittsburgh in general ( see thread at: http://www.city-data.com/forum/pitts...ittsburgh.html ), I think it would help make the transition easier for THEM, if they had the opportunity to be surrounded by a few of what I'll call "Culture Comforts".... Hungarian doctors, events and stuff like that. They both speak english well and have assimilated somewhat themselves, of course, but still and all, if they have the chance to surround themselves wih a few familiar things, the move might not be quite so stressful on them....

Thanks for your halp, and anyone else os also welcome to chime in, of course!!!

[SueJ999]

The William Penn Association is a huge Hungarian 'club'. I did a quick search for "hungarian club pittsburgh" and came up with a very informative page for any nationality in the Pittsburgh area! It's Welcome to GlobalPittsburgh.org. Here's the website (this is directly from the Hungarian page):

GlobalPittsburgh.org: Hungarian

[ainulinale]

I just found this out: Hazelwood is supposed to be a traditionally Hungarian neighborhood. I don't have pictures of the area, but I know it has cheaper, non-rowhouse style housing. Just follow second ave. up the Monongehela to the neighborhood just before the city limits and you'll be in Hazelwood.

[Katiana]

Originally Posted by By~Tor

Well, I'm not hungarian myself (I'm actually Irish / Texan...), but my gal's family is, and they came to NY shortly after the 1956 revolution over there, and New York is really all they've ever known. They're getting up in years, and so even though we're all pretty resigned on moving to Pittsburgh in general ( see thread at: http://www.city-data.com/forum/pitts...ittsburgh.html ), I think it would help make the transition easier for THEM, if they had the opportunity to be surrounded by a few of what I'll call "Culture Comforts".... Hungarian doctors, events and stuff like that. They both speak english well and have assimilated somewhat themselves, of course, but still and all, if they have the chance to surround themselves wih a few familiar things, the move might not be quite so stressful on them....

Thanks for your halp, and anyone else os also welcome to chime in, of course!!!

I don't think they'll have any trouble fitting in to Pittsburgh. You may find that the "Hungarian Clubs" are not so Hungarian any more. My brother joined a "Polish-American" Club on the basis of being American! He is definitely not Polish. I think these "nationality clubs" are having to recruit from outside the ranks to keep up members.

[fleetiebelle]

I just found this out: Hazelwood is supposed to be a traditionally Hungarian neighborhood.

Hazelwood is kind of a rough neighborhood, though it is the location of the Josza Corner Hungarian restaurant. I haven't been, but friends say the owner/chef is Hungarian and is a hoot.

[smokecitytdi]

"My dad also knows there is a Hungarian Club in Pittsburgh somewhere, but cannot think of it. I tried doing some google searches but mostly came up empty handed".

The Hungarian Club is in Hazelwood on Flowers Avenue. It's behind the mini-mart on Second Avenue. As of 2006 the club was for sale due to the gangs/shootings/drugs around the club. Club members were attempting to hire off-duty cops to keep the getto kids from damaging the building and the members cars.