06-03-2016, 08:49 AM
Location: Pittsburgh
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No team has ever actually lost to the pens; especially in the playoffs. We only win because:
It is strange, but true. The crying comes from the other team's fans and in droves. The first two games the Penguins played better and won. Funny how Logan whines about Crosby cheating. Talk about sour grapes, but people for some reason just hate a clean team like the Penguins. Hockey is trying to move towards great hockey instead of a bunch of goons out there trying to take players out.
06-03-2016, 08:59 AM
Location: Pittsburgh, PA
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Rangers and Caps seemed to make hitting the Pens one of their big focuses this spring and look how that worked out. The pens have been a joy to watch the past 5 months or so with their speed and skill.
06-03-2016, 09:25 AM
Location: Pittsburgh PA
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I'm not normally into hockey, but this city is going nuts and it's fun to be a part of it!
06-03-2016, 09:26 AM
Location: Downtown Cranberry Twp.
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I'm not normally into hockey, but this city is going nuts and it's fun to be a part of it!
City of Champions! City of Black and Gold!
Gotta love it.
06-03-2016, 12:24 PM
Location: The canyon (with my pistols and knife)
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No team has ever actually lost to the pens; especially in the playoffs. We only win because:
Then they'll claim that Pittsburgh doesn't deserve an NHL team, and that the Penguins almost left Pittsburgh because of some lack of fan support. So if that's true, then why did the Penguins even bother negotiating for a new arena to stay in Pittsburgh? Why didn't they just leave when their lease on the Civic Arena expired in 2007? Other cities already had new state-of-the-art arenas for the Penguins to move into on a moment's notice, so why did they even bother trying to stay if fan support was the root of all their problems? Why did they go through all that trouble when there was an easy way out? Probably because fan support was never the problem in the first place.
Furthermore, if Pittsburghers were so uninterested in the Penguins, then why did TV ratings remain strong during the lean years of the early 2000s? Attendance plummeted in the 2003-2004 season because the fans protested the team dumping salaries during the preceding off-season. The Penguins ended up getting rid of all their talent in the process, and fans were less willing to blow $100+ on tickets, parking and concessions to watch the team get blown off the ice night after night. It was much cheaper to watch them on TV, which is exactly what the fans did. If Pittsburgh really was uninterested in the Penguins, then TV ratings would have plummeted too, but they didn't.
Of course, the Penguins had to do what they had to do. There was no new arena on the horizon, so the big salaries had to be dumped in order for the team to stay above water. The Civic Arena was the oldest in the NHL, and never designed or intended for hockey in the first place. It was designed for the Pittsburgh Symphony Orchestra, who ended up moving out anyway because of the ****ty acoustics. Then big concert tours started bypassing Pittsburgh in the 2000s because the Civic Arena couldn't handle the more sophisticated stage setups. By 2000, the Civic Arena was useless for anything other than dog shows, tractor pulls, and religious and graduation ceremonies. But yeah, the Penguins almost left because of the fans. Give me a ****ing break.
06-03-2016, 03:32 PM
Location: Pittsburgh
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Rangers and Caps seemed to make hitting the Pens one of their big focuses this spring and look how that worked out. The pens have been a joy to watch the past 5 months or so with their speed and skill.
Sometimes the hitting works, but I think the Penguins are pretty deep and with these young fast players out there the big goons are way behind and too slow. I think the Penguins have a good strategy. I don't think we will see the end of all the hitting on key players in the NHL anytime soon, but they are making progress. They sure go after the key Penguin players, but it seems Tampa and San Jose play hockey, not just try and knock people out of the game like Washington and NY do. Winning is better than whining though.
Lots of hockey to be played. I hope we win the first game down there to give us a little cushion. Well, I like big cushions.
06-03-2016, 03:38 PM
Location: Downtown Cranberry Twp.
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Sometimes the hitting works, but I think the Penguins are pretty deep and with these young fast players out there the big goons are way behind and too slow. I think the Penguins have a good strategy. I don't think we will see the end of all the hitting on key players in the NHL anytime soon, but they are making progress. They sure go after the key Penguin players, but it seems Tampa and San Jose play hockey, not just try and knock people out of the game like Washington and NY do. Winning is better than whining though.
Lots of hockey to be played. I hope we win the first game down there to give us a little cushion. Well, I like big cushions.
What about the Penguins/CEC jinx?
06-04-2016, 09:16 AM
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It is strange, but true. The crying comes from the other team's fans and in droves. The first two games the Penguins played better and won. Funny how Logan whines about Crosby cheating. Talk about sour grapes, but people for some reason just hate a clean team like the Penguins. Hockey is trying to move towards great hockey instead of a bunch of goons out there trying to take players out.
Most of the hating is aimed at Crosby. The hate is very similar to that aimed at Lebron James. Jealousy is what drives it.
06-04-2016, 11:14 AM
Location: Downtown Cranberry Twp.
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Most of the hating is aimed at Crosby. The hate is very similar to that aimed at Lebron James. Jealousy is what drives it.
This^^^^
Canada/Toronto fans are also hating that Kessel is doing so well...especially being a Conn Smythe contender.
06-04-2016, 11:15 AM
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I think the anti-Pens sentiment that you guys are referencing is likely a legacy of years of whining from the Pens management/Crosby/fans/Pens announcers about the "rough play" they were exposed to from the best teams in the early part of Crosby's career. Whether this is fair or not is up for debate. But believe it or not, in other NHL cities, a lot of viewers/fans of the game appreciate and respect players that compete physically, with toughness and no-holds-barred attitudes. Hitting has been an important part of the game for many years, and tradition dies hard in sports.
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Residents speaking other language at home - Born in the United States (%)
Residents speaking other language at home - Native, born elsewhere (%)
Residents speaking other language at home - Foreign born (%)
Class of Workers - Employee of private company (%)
Class of Workers - Self-employed in own incorporated business (%)
Class of Workers - Private not-for-profit wage and salary workers (%)
Class of Workers - Local government workers (%)
Class of Workers - State government workers (%)
Class of Workers - Federal government workers (%)
Class of Workers - Self-employed workers in own not incorporated business and Unpaid family workers (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Utility gas (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Bottled, tank, or LP gas (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Electricity (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Fuel oil, kerosene, etc. (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Coal or coke (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Wood (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Solar energy (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Other fuel (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - No fuel used (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Utility gas (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Bottled, tank, or LP gas (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Electricity (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Fuel oil, kerosene, etc. (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Coal or coke (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Wood (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Solar energy (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Other fuel (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - No fuel used (%)
Armed forces status - In Armed Forces (%)
Armed forces status - Civilian (%)
Armed forces status - Civilian - Veteran (%)
Armed forces status - Civilian - Nonveteran (%)
Fatal accidents locations in years 2005-2021
Fatal accidents locations in 2005
Fatal accidents locations in 2006
Fatal accidents locations in 2007
Fatal accidents locations in 2008
Fatal accidents locations in 2009
Fatal accidents locations in 2010
Fatal accidents locations in 2011
Fatal accidents locations in 2012
Fatal accidents locations in 2013
Fatal accidents locations in 2014
Fatal accidents locations in 2015
Fatal accidents locations in 2016
Fatal accidents locations in 2017
Fatal accidents locations in 2018
Fatal accidents locations in 2019
Fatal accidents locations in 2020
Fatal accidents locations in 2021
Alcohol use - People drinking some alcohol every month (%)
Alcohol use - People not drinking at all (%)
Alcohol use - Average days/month drinking alcohol
Alcohol use - Average drinks/week
Alcohol use - Average days/year people drink much
Audiometry - Average condition of hearing (%)
Audiometry - People that can hear a whisper from across a quiet room (%)
Audiometry - People that can hear normal voice from across a quiet room (%)
Audiometry - Ears ringing, roaring, buzzing (%)
Audiometry - Had a job exposure to loud noise (%)
Audiometry - Had off-work exposure to loud noise (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Has high blood pressure (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Checking blood pressure at home (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Frequently checking blood cholesterol (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Has high cholesterol level (%)
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on food at supermarket/grocery store
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on food at other stores
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on eating out
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on carryout/delivered foods
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on food at supermarket/grocery store (%)
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on food at other stores (%)
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on eating out (%)
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on carryout/delivered foods (%)
Current Health Status - General health condition (%)
Current Health Status - Blood donors (%)
Current Health Status - Has blood ever tested for HIV virus (%)
Current Health Status - Left-handed people (%)
Dermatology - People using sunscreen (%)
Diabetes - Diabetics (%)
Diabetes - Had a blood test for high blood sugar (%)
Diabetes - People taking insulin (%)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Diet health (%)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Milk product consumption (# of products/month)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Meals not home prepared (#/week)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Meals from fast food or pizza place (#/week)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Ready-to-eat foods (#/month)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Frozen meals/pizza (#/month)
Drug Use - People that ever used marijuana or hashish (%)
Drug Use - Ever used hard drugs (%)
Drug Use - Ever used any form of cocaine (%)
Drug Use - Ever used heroin (%)
Drug Use - Ever used methamphetamine (%)
Health Insurance - People covered by health insurance (%)
Kidney Conditions-Urology - Avg. # of times urinating at night
Medical Conditions - People with asthma (%)
Medical Conditions - People with anemia (%)
Medical Conditions - People with psoriasis (%)
Medical Conditions - People with overweight (%)
Medical Conditions - Elderly people having difficulties in thinking or remembering (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever received blood transfusion (%)
Medical Conditions - People having trouble seeing even with glass/contacts (%)
Medical Conditions - People with arthritis (%)
Medical Conditions - People with gout (%)
Medical Conditions - People with congestive heart failure (%)
Medical Conditions - People with coronary heart disease (%)
Medical Conditions - People with angina pectoris (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever had heart attack (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever had stroke (%)
Medical Conditions - People with emphysema (%)
Medical Conditions - People with thyroid problem (%)
Medical Conditions - People with chronic bronchitis (%)
Medical Conditions - People with any liver condition (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever had cancer or malignancy (%)
Mental Health - People who have little interest in doing things (%)
Mental Health - People feeling down, depressed, or hopeless (%)
Mental Health - People who have trouble sleeping or sleeping too much (%)
Mental Health - People feeling tired or having little energy (%)
Mental Health - People with poor appetite or overeating (%)
Mental Health - People feeling bad about themself (%)
Mental Health - People who have trouble concentrating on things (%)
Mental Health - People moving or speaking slowly or too fast (%)
Mental Health - People having thoughts they would be better off dead (%)
Oral Health - Average years since last visit a dentist
Oral Health - People embarrassed because of mouth (%)
Oral Health - People with gum disease (%)
Oral Health - General health of teeth and gums (%)
Oral Health - Average days a week using dental floss/device
Oral Health - Average days a week using mouthwash for dental problem
Oral Health - Average number of teeth
Pesticide Use - Households using pesticides to control insects (%)
Pesticide Use - Households using pesticides to kill weeds (%)
Physical Activity - People doing vigorous-intensity work activities (%)
Physical Activity - People doing moderate-intensity work activities (%)
Physical Activity - People walking or bicycling (%)
Physical Activity - People doing vigorous-intensity recreational activities (%)
Physical Activity - People doing moderate-intensity recreational activities (%)
Physical Activity - Average hours a day doing sedentary activities
Physical Activity - Average hours a day watching TV or videos
Physical Activity - Average hours a day using computer
Physical Functioning - People having limitations keeping them from working (%)
Physical Functioning - People limited in amount of work they can do (%)
Physical Functioning - People that need special equipment to walk (%)
Physical Functioning - People experiencing confusion/memory problems (%)
Physical Functioning - People requiring special healthcare equipment (%)
Prescription Medications - Average number of prescription medicines taking
Preventive Aspirin Use - Adults 40+ taking low-dose aspirin (%)
Reproductive Health - Vaginal deliveries (%)
Reproductive Health - Cesarean deliveries (%)
Reproductive Health - Deliveries resulted in a live birth (%)
Reproductive Health - Pregnancies resulted in a delivery (%)
Reproductive Health - Women breastfeeding newborns (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that had a hysterectomy (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that had both ovaries removed (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that have ever taken birth control pills (%)
Reproductive Health - Women taking birth control pills (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that have ever used Depo-Provera or injectables (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that have ever used female hormones (%)
Sexual Behavior - People 18+ that ever had sex (vaginal, anal, or oral) (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever had vaginal sex with a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever performed oral sex on a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever had anal sex with a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever had any sex with a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever had vaginal sex with a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever performed oral sex on a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever had anal sex with a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever had any kind of sex with a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Average age people first had sex
Sexual Behavior - Average number of female sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of female vaginal sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average age people first performed oral sex on a woman (18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of woman performed oral sex on in lifetime (18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male anal sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average age people first performed oral sex on a man (18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male oral sex partners in lifetime (18+)
Sexual Behavior - People using protection when performing oral sex (%)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of times people have vaginal or anal sex a year
Sexual Behavior - People having sex without condom (%)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male sex partners in lifetime (females 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male vaginal sex partners in lifetime (females 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of female sex partners in lifetime (females 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Circumcised males 18+ (%)
Sleep Disorders - Average hours sleeping at night
Sleep Disorders - People that has trouble sleeping (%)
Smoking-Cigarette Use - People smoking cigarettes (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ having problems with smell (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ having problems with taste (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had wisdom teeth removed (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had tonsils teeth removed (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had a loss of consciousness because of a head injury (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had a broken nose or other serious injury to face or skull (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had two or more sinus infections (%)
Weight - Average height (inches)
Weight - Average weight (pounds)
Weight - Average BMI
Weight - People that are obese (%)
Weight - People that ever were obese (%)
Weight - People trying to lose weight (%)
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